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    Just hooked up an internal CD burner to my in-law's pc. It's been a while since I had to mess around with hardware like this, so I was wondering if anyone knows whether it will be a problem to piggyback the burner off the primary IDE controller. I have the HD set to master and the burner set to slave, and everything works ok, but the instructions "highly recommended" setting the burner to master on the secondary IDE. This thing won't have problems down the road will it?
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  • #2
    Why don't you just place it in the secondary IDE channel?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Provost Harrison
      Why don't you just place it in the secondary IDE channel?
      I don't have the proper ribbons available. The one going off the secondary IDE only has one connector and I need two.
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      • #4
        Hmmm, well the problem is that each has control of the IDE channel when it needs it excluding the other device. This could be a significant problem for a CD burner which may require a steady stream of information if interrupted by the hard drive. I would recommend getting a cable for the secondary IDE channel, they aren't particularly expensive...
        Speaking of Erith:

        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Provost Harrison
          Hmmm, well the problem is that each has control of the IDE channel when it needs it excluding the other device. This could be a significant problem for a CD burner which may require a steady stream of information if interrupted by the hard drive. I would recommend getting a cable for the secondary IDE channel, they aren't particularly expensive...
          The thing is I've tested it and everything is working fine, I just want to make sure I won't have problems with it later on. Screwing up the in-law's computer would not be a good thing
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          • #6
            Another IDE cable is hardly 'screwing' my good man
            Speaking of Erith:

            "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Provost Harrison
              Another IDE cable is hardly 'screwing' my good man
              True, but leaving it hooked up incorrectly would be

              At the moment I am assuming that it won't be a problem seeing as everything is working. Do you know of any reason why this could become a problem later on?
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              • #8
                My worry was with burning a CD if the computer needs to access the hard drive for some reason...
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                  My worry was with burning a CD if the computer needs to access the hard drive for some reason...
                  Well, it didn't have any trouble burning files from the hard drive...
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                  • #10
                    It can burn, but can it burn error free and consistently and at it's max speeds?

                    The reason it works sometimes, or even most of the time, is that your HD reads/writes are short enough that you don't run out of buffer on the CD write.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                      Hmmm, well the problem is that each has control of the IDE channel when it needs it excluding the other device. This could be a significant problem for a CD burner which may require a steady stream of information if interrupted by the hard drive. I would recommend getting a cable for the secondary IDE channel, they aren't particularly expensive...
                      Just get a new cable and set the CD to secondary master, it's less likely to 'screw up' you in-laws computer, at least you'll know they can burn CD's ok

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
                        It can burn, but can it burn error free and consistently and at it's max speeds?

                        The reason it works sometimes, or even most of the time, is that your HD reads/writes are short enough that you don't run out of buffer on the CD write.
                        mmm...do you think the buffer underrun/overrun protection in the burning program would be enough to solve that? I'm trying to decide if it's worth getting them to take me back to the computer store for this or not...
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                        • #13
                          Most of the time - but if they thrash swapfile for a while, you'd be SOL. Also, you won't get the highest possible recording speeds on your CDs and burner without a fair percentage of errors. Usually, you only discover those in the middle of the CD.

                          It's worth putting it as the master device on it's own channel.
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                          • #14
                            Ok, I guess I'll have to mess with that damn casing again...dammit!

                            Thanks for the advice.
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