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    From the BBC

    Corsica seeks stake in future

    By Caroline Wyatt
    BBC, Corsica

    The French island of Corsica goes to the polls this Sunday in a referendum to decide on a limited measure of autonomy for the island.

    The referendum will ask whether the islanders want to keep their two administrative departments and one regional council, or elect a new, unified assembly with some limited powers to raise and spend taxes.

    The French Government has thrown itself behind the Yes campaign, but many on the Mediterranean island fear that a Yes vote would be seen as a victory for violent nationalists who have waged a bombing and shooting campaign for independence from France since the 1970s.

    In France, Corsica is known as the Isle of Beauty, its clear blue waters and unspoilt beaches a lure for millions of tourists each year.

    Yet over the centuries, this small island has inspired equal measures of love and hate from its various rulers, thanks to its fierce spirit of independence.

    Assembly proposal

    Over the past 30 years, the violent Corsican separatist movement has caused untold misery with a bombing and shooting campaign that has killed at least 40 people in the last two years alone.

    This will not stop the violence or solve everything but it will create a better climate and then perhaps fewer troubles
    MP Paul Giacobbi

    But now, for the first time, the French Government is proposing to give Corsica just a little bit more autonomy, as part of wider decentralisation measures it is planning for the whole of France.

    This Sunday it is asking Corsica's 190,000 registered voters whether they want a new unified island assembly, which will have more power than its current councils.

    Corsican MP Paul Giacobbi, the deputy president of Upper Corsica Council, says he is firmly in favour of the idea.

    "This referendum is very important because it is the first time that people in Corsica are entitled to have a say in their own future," he tells the BBC.

    "A lot of people say Corsicans think such and such a thing but for the first time people are being asked to give their opinion, to say what they want. It will not stop the violence or solve everything - but it will create a better climate and then perhaps fewer troubles."

    Mr Giacobbi might be one of the candidates to head the new assembly, so perhaps his views are not surprising.

    PR disaster

    But why is this issue so important to the French Government? French Interior Minister Nicholas Sarkozy has paid eight visits to Corsica to campaign for a Yes vote, the last time with Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin.

    Even the Romans only wanted Corsicans to fight in the army, not to work anywhere else, because they never obeyed orders
    Dominique Sialleli
    Corsican businessman

    But it was a PR disaster. Both men were booed, jeered and humiliated by protesters, and finally forced to deliver their speeches standing on white plastic chairs at the airport, to ensure they could be seen and heard above the din.

    The protesters were mainly those worried about losing their jobs and pensions, especially if there is administrative reform on the island.

    Paris-based political analyst Jean-Louis Briquet says winning the referendum is vital for the credibility of Raffarin's government.

    "They want the Yesses to win and I think a victory for the No vote could be a significant problem for the government because it needs legitimacy from the Corsican people," he says.

    Many Corsicans are not yet sure which way to vote - the debate on the island is vigorous, both in cafes and at public meetings.

    Small is beautiful

    Opinion polls show the Yes and No votes roughly equal, with the Yesses perhaps a nose ahead.

    But some Corsicans, like Francois Tatti, deputy mayor of the town of Bastia in the north, is campaigning for a No and believes the government in Paris is trying to buy off voters.

    "The last visit to Corsica by Raffarin and Sarkozy must have cost about 4m euros," he says.

    "We hold public meetings and they're much cheaper and work very well. People don't respond to big media campaigns, where the government promises that if we vote Yes, they'll wipe out farmers' debts and give money to the university.

    "So does that mean if we vote No, it won't get done? That would mean that it's not a free vote - but a banana republic, a rubber democracy. People here are wise to that."

    Many of the fishing boats in Bastia's picturesque harbour lie idle. Traditional ways of making a living - fishing or farming - are in steep decline, yet tourism alone is not enough to sustain the island.

    So some here believe the referendum focussing French minds on Corsica's problems cannot be a bad thing, especially if it brings more confidence and fresh investment in new industries.

    'Wish for freedom'

    Corsican businessman Dominique Sialleli recently set up the island's first brewery making Pietra beer - brewed from chestnuts - and Corsica Cola.

    Both are rapidly gaining popularity on the island.

    He is no nationalist, but believes this referendum shows the French Government is at last prepared to listen to the people of the island.

    "It's been a violent island for 2,000 years, since Roman times," he smiles. "Even the Romans only wanted Corsicans to fight in the army, not to work anywhere else, because they never obeyed orders.

    "There's always been a strong wish for freedom here. So I'm sure the referendum won't solve the Corsican problem but it's a path on the way, and I think it's important to pass through this process."

    The tourists who come from around the world to enjoy Corsica's secluded sandy beaches probably won't notice or care about the small democratic revolution taking place at the ballot box this Sunday.

    But for Corsicans themselves, whichever way they vote, the hope is that this referendum could be one small step on the path to peace.


    From Euronews:

    Police question France's most wanted man

    The chief suspect in the murder of France's top state official in Corsica has been transferred to a high security prison in Paris and is being questioned by police following his arrest last night.

    Yvan Colonna was seized by security forces in an operation at a farm in the south of the Mediterranean island.

    He had been on the run for four years after escaping police surveillance. The subsequent manhunt stretched as far afield as Venezuala.

    His arrest comes amid the trial of eight other Corsican nationalists for the murder of Claude Erignac in 1998.

    Colanna is suspected of having shot Erignac three times at close range as he walked to a theatre in the town of Ajaccio. The eight other accused have said the official was targetted as a symbol of the French state but have refused to say who fired the shots.

    Erignac's widow Dominique said she received the news of Colanna's capture in a phone call from the Interior Minister Nicola Sarkozy himself.


    Obviously this seizure happened today by pure coincidence God forbid the police knew about Colonna's whereabouts, but kept his seizure for the time it'd give the government more leverage

    Also, this referendum is the current big thing in France. It's the first time, I think, that a non-colonial region has a non-national referendum with actually some weight, and whose power gets past this of the administrative district himself.
    However, the terms of the referendum justify the terrorists' action. The only reason why the Republican right is in favour, is that the government made the proposal. And sadly, it seems their love-love relationship on the issue will only push the terrorists to go further: they're a fringe group using violence to get no less than Corsica's independence.
    They rely on Corsican traditions and hospitality not to get betrayed by the population, but according to the polls, the Corsicans are 98% hostile to independance. Strangely enough, no real and autonomist party seems to have taken ground. Corsica's political life mirrors quite well the rest of France's political life.
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  • #2
    Wtf?

    Why would Paris back more autonomy?
    urgh.NSFW

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Azazel
      Why would Paris back more autonomy?
      There's a wide decentralisation occuring in France right now, since it is all the rage in Europe these days (the EU promotes the idea of a "Europe of Regions").
      Besides, the gov wants to leave many areas of its job to the regions, so that tight budget, debts and poor services become the region's problem rather than the State's.

      In Corsica, the problem is more acute as there are terrorists who effectively pollute the economic life of the island, and their racket makes sure no serious industry can grow, except tourism (nearly all Corsicans who want to work hard and make money must go to the mainland).

      The latest two governments believe that agreeing to the terrorists' demands will bring peace to the island. That's all fine if we are to give its independance. That's stupid if we are to keep it under the Republic: the terrorists want Corsica's idependance, contrary to the mindboggling majority of Corsicans. Of course, this has nothing to do with the 90% of Corsica's budget being subsidies
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      • #4
        EU is being a rather lousy empire.
        urgh.NSFW

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Azazel
          EU is being a rather lousy empire.
          Yes, we obviously need a new Caesar or Napoleon
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          • #6
            No, what I mean is that on one hand, it's easy to see, for me, at least, that it wants to become a super-state. It's all over the place.

            On the other hand, it seems that it is terribly ashamed of it.
            urgh.NSFW

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            • #7
              This is true.

              Actually, Europe works on the principle of "subsidiarity".
              Most economic decisions are taken at Europe's level, but the States or regions are in charge of applying them (this principle includes that some decisions are taken at State's level too).

              The EU seems to seek that new "Euroregions" will be better at the job of applying decisions than nation-states. Partly because nation-states are too different in terms of size and influence. Partly because their borders do not correspond to a European "optimum".

              IIUC, the Euroregions would be quite big, about the size of Bavaria, and are to get important powers in the distant future. For now, they only exist as a project, and no definitive map has been made.
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              • #8
                Is nobody interested in the fate of Corsica ?
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                • #9
                  I would be interested, if they'd actually have independence. So far, yawn.

                  Sorry.
                  urgh.NSFW

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                  • #10
                    How much autonomy do the (ordinary) departments in France have?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Spiffor
                      Is nobody interested in the fate of Corsica ?
                      Not really. The only interesting thing I have heard about Corsica in the past 6 years is that it cost a friend of mines from HS a visa to france. He wrote a pro-corsican indpendence tract that was published in a very obscure and insignificant journal. A few years later his family applied for visas to vacation in France, and all of them were accepted save him, and when he went to find out why, he was told the French government refused him a visa becuase he supported terrorism, using the paper (which somehow they found-one assumes they actively look for them) as evidence.
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                      • #12
                        Wow. I've never heard about that. Our politicians utter pro-independance speeches from time to time, yet they have never any problem with the law... It's very suprising such a thing did occur recently. Do you say it dates back to 1997 ?
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                        • #13
                          Yes. My guess is the piece was posted around the mid-90's, and the visa application might have been in '97 itself.

                          I mean, this was a High School student who had had a paper published in somethinglike the (to make up a name here) Pauntuckett Community College Political Science Review, and yet somehow the French gov. found that article and denied him a visa for writing it.
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                          • #14
                            Actually, Europe works on the principle of "subsidiarity". Most economic decisions are taken at Europe's level, but the States or regions are in charge of applying them (this principle includes that some decisions are taken at State's level too).
                            The European Commission is very good at talking about subsidiarity, but when it comes down to it they'll grab any power they can regardless of whether it is in the interests of member nations to devolve upwards or not.
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                            • #15
                              If only you were right, Eif.
                              urgh.NSFW

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