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  • #46
    Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


    They are if they're the enemy. If they don't want to get their asses killed, then don't **** with us, it's that simple.
    But American forces and their collaborators are the enemy of Iraqi nationalists... and so it goes...

    Latest word - between 7 and 10 American trained Iraqi police were killed when their HQ was blown up. About 30 injured. This may discourage Iraqis from embracing their liberators...
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    • #47
      Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


      Essentially we just have to install our lackeys and be able to keep them from getting assassinated or deposed for some period of time so that it's not tooo immediate.
      An easy goal in comparison to the rhetoric. Of course, it will reaffirm all suspicions about American imperialism.

      "No, for two reasons: Direct imperialism is out, imperialism by proxy is in, and if we stay there, we won't have enough people to go somewhere else. "

      Yeah, but that's a logical argument, and I was talking about the neocons.
      “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Uncle Sparky


        But American forces and their collaborators are the enemy of Iraqi nationalists... and so it goes...
        So far, there doesn't seem to be many Iraqi nationalists fighting - although that may come later.

        Baath party loyalists who don't like not being able to dominate the rest of the populace seem to be the predominant "resistance" so far. **** 'em, they can go along with the program, or take it up with Allah.

        BTW, Savita, tell 'em to stop shooting, and we won't have to shoot them either. Meanwhile, this is the real world, not the video for Tiptoe through the Tulips.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by HershOstropoler
          An easy goal in comparison to the rhetoric. Of course, it will reaffirm all suspicions about American imperialism.
          What do you mean "reaffirm" - there was some wavering at some point?


          Yeah, but that's a logical argument, and I was talking about the neocons.
          The neocons seem to have been spanked and sent to their rooms without their supper lately. Maybe I haven't been paying attention and have missed it, but the amount of mouth-running seems to be a bit less.
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          • #50
            "What do you mean "reaffirm" - there was some wavering at some point?"

            Well oddly enough, there are some people who give the Wannabe-Imperium the benefit of the doubt regarding Iraq. I don't understand that either, but well...

            "Maybe I haven't been paying attention and have missed it, but the amount of mouth-running seems to be a bit less."

            I haven't got that impression. But maybe they are just resting.
            “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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            • #51
              The neocons seem to have been spanked and sent to their rooms without their supper lately. Maybe I haven't been paying attention and have missed it, but the amount of mouth-running seems to be a bit less.

              Yes, this seems to be the case. And it is proper that they now spend their energies eating what is on our plate. Quite a meal.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #52
                "And it is proper that they now spend their energies eating what is on our plate."

                Stop scaring me.
                “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                • #53
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by DanS
                    It seems to me that all the money paid to Iraqis will just leave the country as Iraqis buy the imported goods.

                    But this isn't a problem with any oil economy. What else are they going to do with the dollars, other than buy imported goods and equipment? Burn them for heating?
                    Maybe instead of paying some people more they should pay more people, because the money is not going to circulate through the economy if the people who have it are just buying imports.
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                    • #55
                      Either your post is incomprehensible, or I just don't understand what you're getting at.

                      You say that the Iraqis shouldn't import so much, but this is silly. What else are they going to do with the Dollars that their oil commands? Paper their houses with it? Buy US government bonds? (Colon: ) Dinars never "leave the country".
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #56
                        Two more KIA's overnight (our time), both from 1AD.
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                        • #57
                          Apparently, we captured one of the attackers in one of the ambushes, while killing one other. Eventually, some will make mistakes under questioning, and hopefully we can roll some of this stuff up.

                          Also, one can guess that the CIA and the military are making progress at developing informants and other methods on the ground.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #58
                            This a fantasy, there is no "insurgency,' this is Saddam's plan in it's final stage.

                            Iraqis are afraid to point out the guys doing this, they fear retribution, and believe we will leave them in the lurch, like in 91, and places like Vietnam and Somalia.

                            This whole thing is in a rough Triangle from Baghdad to Tikrit, to I think it's called Falleusah (probaly spelled that wrong). The area also happens to be Saddam's home tribal area, and the people who got the most from Saddam's regime.

                            There is only one way to stop this, you have to get Iraqis into the police and military and get Saddam.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Chris 62
                              There is only one way to stop this, you have to get Iraqis into the police and military
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                              • #60
                                I remember in the first Gulf War, a CNN correspondent made a small but telling slip. After a day's hard fighting, he declared that allied troops had secured a key objective but that only 12 people were injured: 6 Americans and 6 British.

                                Mull it over.
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