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Originally posted by Agathon
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How the hell is it not spam? I'm with Asher on this one.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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No it doesn't. One of the main arguement against spams is they incur a cost against the carriers and end users.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
OTOH, the analogy to a mailbox does not work, because the sender pays postage in this case. Stupid judges, get with the times already.
Yes it does work. The fact that there is a lack of postage doesn't matter at all.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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From CAUCEWe all get junk mail at home. It's an accepted fact of life, at least in the U.S. So why is Unsolicited Commercial Email (UCE) -- a/k/a "spam" or "junk email" -- a problem?(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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I'm sorry, what does some group's opinion of spam mean when the dictionary's definition differs?
Why is there discrimination against where the source is? If an individual is repeatedly sending unsolicited mail, it is spam too. Who would argue that it's not?
(Well, don't answer that, we all know the extent of both your and Agathlon's reasoning ability)"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Is there an official holder of the vocabulary truth in English ?
Or are English dictionaries' definitions written by some private actor to correspond with the general definition in the society ?"I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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The latter, sadly
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Mine's from the only American dictionary that defined it (a very popular one, American Heritage Dictionary)Originally posted by Spiffor
Is there an official holder of the vocabulary truth in English ?
Or are English dictionaries' definitions written by some private actor to correspond with the general definition in the society ?
It is therefore more reputable than a small advocacy group who are against "Unsolicited Commercial Email", which they then equate to spam. IMHO, unsolicited commercial email is a subset of spam."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Because the group's opinion matters more?Originally posted by Asher
I'm sorry, what does some group's opinion of spam mean when the dictionary's definition differs?
Let me guess. When a friend of yours sends you e-mail without you asking, it's spam too, yes?Originally posted by Asher
Why is there discrimination against where the source is? If an individual is repeatedly sending unsolicited mail, it is spam too. Who would argue that it's not?
Says the person who keeps falling afoul of logical fallacies, just like right now. A big fat ad hominem.Originally posted by Asher
(Well, don't answer that, we all know the extent of both your and Agathlon's reasoning ability)
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Actually, attacking a person's intelligence can be a valid attack against they're ideas...Comment
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Of course. Everyone cares what they think.Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Because the group's opinion matters more?
If you give your email address to a friend, how is this unsolicited?Let me guess. When a friend of yours sends you e-mail without you asking, it's spam too, yes?
That wasn't an ad hominem. I'm not tearing down your argument based upon your notorious sillyness, I'm tearing down your argument based upon the incredibly silly notion that mail sent repeatedly and indescrimintely for commercial purposes is somehow different than if an individual does it for personal reasons.Says the person who keeps falling afoul of logical fallacies, just like right now. A big fat ad hominem.
Last edited by Asher; July 2, 2003, 23:23."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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eBay v. Bidder's Edge 100 F.Supp.2d 1058 (NDCA).Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Intel claimed the e-mails had trespassed on its private network and had harmed the company by reducing worker productivity.
What a moronic argument! If I was the judge I'd rule against them as well for this idiotic position!- "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
- I went to Zanarkand, and all I got was this lousy aeon!
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Can you summarize the case? I don't have access to Westlaw from this computer.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Bidder's Edge's bots were collecting data from eBay. eBay showed a slight performance lag. The judge ruled that the bots were tresspassing and causing damage to productivity. Essentially Intel's argument. (I remembered that one from property class, so it might have been overturned on appeal - but a winning argument previously).Originally posted by DinoDoc
Can you summarize the case? I don't have access to Westlaw from this computer.
Old wine, new bottles ya know.
- "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
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Not if the sender just puts it in your mail.Originally posted by Urban Ranger
That's not really spam per se, because it's not commercial.
OTOH, the analogy to a mailbox does not work, because the sender pays postage in this case. Stupid judges, get with the times already.
It would be a pretty absurd extension of trespass law to start including personal property of any kind.
Asher - in the US, it does matter. If the mail is for commercial reasons and crosses state lines (or international boudaries, of course) during it's routing from sender to receivers, then it comes under Federal regulatory power.
If it's non-commercial, it does not, as least under current law. The state's own regulatory power with intra-state email is also limited in the case of non-commercial email.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."Comment
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He still has to bear the cost, thoughOriginally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Not if the sender just puts it in your mail.
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(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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