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    Why tell "the kindergarten" association that?


    Outcry as MP links gang rape to virility
    By Shane Green, Herald Correspondent in Tokyo and agencies
    June 28 2003

    Japan has been appalled by the comments of a senior ruling party politician that gang rapists were "virile" and "close to normal".

    Seiichi Ota, a former cabinet minister and member of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party, made the comments at a forum on Japan's declining birthrate, held by the national kindergarten association.

    There was an immediate outcry over the politician's comments, with the opposition Social Democratic Party describing them as "atrocious".

    Mr Ota's comments were made in a debate on Japan's declining birthrate, in the southern city of Kagoshima. The former prime minister Yoshiro Mori also attended.

    The Japanese news agency Kyodo reported that Mr Ota, 57, said the fall in the birthrate was because of the lack of courage among Japanese men to marry.


    The moderator of the debate then made a perplexing reference to a notorious case of alleged gang rape earlier this month, where five students from prestigious universities were arrested for gang raping a female student.

    In an equally bizarre comment, the moderator reportedly asked if men should gang rape "if they don't have the courage to make a marriage proposal".

    "Gang rape shows the people who do it are still virile, and that is okay," Mr Ota said. "I think that might make them close to normal.

    "I know that I would be criticised for saying these sorts of things."

    When the forum finished, Mr Ota, a former academic, tried to explain his comments, telling reporters he had planned to say that rape was a serious crime and should be severely punished.

    The Prime Minister, Junichiro Koizumi, joined the criticism.

    "It is natural that he be criticised. Rape is an unforgivable, contemptible act. It's different from whether one is vigorous or not," Mr Koizumi told reporters.

    Mr Ota was also reprimanded by the LDP secretary-general, Taku Yamasaki, and apologised for his remarks.

    "I think the fact that such comments were reported made victims ... and many women feel unpleasant, so I want to reconsider and express my apologies," he told reporters.

    Yasuyuki Takai, vice-chairman of the Japan Federation of Bar Association's committee on victim support, said he thought Mr Ota's comments showed that Japanese society was too accepting of rape, which often goes unreported.
    *shakes head*
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  • #2
    I see... a politician so keen to score a point in debate that he hasn't a clue where the argument has gone.

    How did he get to be a politician? Was he baptized one or something?
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    • #3
      "the lack of courage among Japanese men to marry"

      That's very interesting. They fear marriage, I fear always remaining single... Hmmmm...
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      • #4
        If you look at Japanese porn, rape sure does look normal in the Japanese society... I'm surprised it raised criticisms : I was sure Japanese women enjoyed being whipped, torture, humiliated, having group sex, and being raped from time to time. At least, Japanese porn has told me so !
        Maybe this guy thought he would get many votes by saying that ?

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        • #5
          They aren't RAPISTS....

          They are simply SEXUAL DEVIANTS.

          Get it right
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          • #6
            as spiffor said, this doesnt seem like any outrage would be raised considering the state of japanese "eroticism".

            spiffor, hes also a mac user. minus points for lith.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by MRT144
              spiffor, hes also a mac user. minus points for lith.
              Right, I didn't think of that. He's doomed
              "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Spiffor
                If you look at Japanese porn, rape sure does look normal in the Japanese society... I'm surprised it raised criticisms : I was sure Japanese women enjoyed being whipped, torture, humiliated, having group sex, and being raped from time to time. At least, Japanese porn has told me so !
                You watch that stuff, Spiffor?

                *Looks around*

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                • #9
                  Japanese women also enjoy sex with tentacled alien gods! I've seen the pictures!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                    You watch that stuff, Spiffor?
                    Past tense.
                    "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                    "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                    "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Spiffor
                      If you look at Japanese porn, rape sure does look normal in the Japanese society... I'm surprised it raised criticisms : I was sure Japanese women enjoyed being whipped, torture, humiliated, having group sex, and being raped from time to time. At least, Japanese porn has told me so !
                      .
                      The more repressed a society is about sex, the more outlandish and bizarre their pornography and secret sex lives seem to be.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Spiffor
                        Past tense.
                        You still need a girlfriend
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                          You still need a girlfriend
                          Erm, I have one. Now if you mean that I need an extra one, you're worrying me
                          "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                          "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                          "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                          • #14
                            Hahaha, I'll have you know that 50% of the cutest girls I know, and the hottest girl I know personally, use macs... But thanks for the compliment anyway, Spiff - time to er, not look a gift horse in the mouth...
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Spiffor
                              Erm, I have one. Now if you mean that I need an extra one, you're worrying me
                              Nope. Won't do such a thing.

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