The End of the Russian Arms industry

[Serb]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

and how many are exported and fly today , .....

have a nice day

None. We keep this masterpeice of enginering for ourselves. It's the best attack helicopter in the world. Why we should sell it?

[David Floyd]

Oh I have a good idea what it means, I'm just saying what it realistically means

I mean, seriously - other than a nuke, Russia just doesn't have a lot that could stop, say, a US armored division w/ air support.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Serb

Let me guess, they are buying T-shirts, right? Because they already bought some S-300 SAMs for their anti-aircraft defense from us.

So, wtf are you talking about?
Have a nice day.

hi ,

nope , spare parts , radar for the s-300 , comps , trainers for aircraft , the whole nine yards , .......

guess what , they want the arrow next to the 300 , .... funny guys them Greeks , .....

second part , has nothing to do with you , .....

have a nice day

[Serb]

Originally posted by Saras




Dave, if only you knew what pyzdiuley means

Yeah, it was damn funny to read his post. I'm glad to see that at least one man understand what I meant. Too bad that there is no word for 'pizdyuli" in English.

[The Vagabond]

Originally posted by David Floyd
On the other hand, you can't even pay your own soldiers, so maybe you give them "pizdyulei".

What a pun! David, if you knew how appropriately you placed the unknown to you word in a sentence!

[Panag]

Originally posted by Serb

None. We keep this masterpeice of enginering for ourselves. It's the best attack helicopter in the world. Why we should sell it?

hi ,

and how many are flying , .....

how many where shot down allready , ......

how many fly without them anti aircraft missile defenses due to the lack of money , ......

them little things you see falling off over a combatzone to distract aa missiles , ........

standard ops in some republic that starts with a "C" , two helicopters fly in formation , only one has the defenses loaded , ......

and lets be real , if they would have all the money they would need the would kick some but in some mountains with snow , .....

have a nice day

[David Floyd]

[Panag]

Originally posted by Serb

Blah...blah...blah...
The same crap of your as "Russian steal rocket fuel from their ICBMs and sell it on markets"
It's fully operational, was upgraded SEVERAL times since it's in service and it's a flagship of Northern Fleet.

hi ,

since when does one call repairs and drydock time " upgrades " , .....

the flagship has sailed how many miles since the start of this year , ......

every serious country with a sattelite can tell you how many , ......

have a nice day

[David Floyd]

FYI:

Kirov class warships:

4 total

Admiral Ushakov:

Inactive. Suffered nuclear accident in 1990. Entered shipyard for overhaul in 1999. Unlikely to return to service.

Admiral Lazarev:

Inoperable since early '90s. Russian Navy asking for DONATIONS to help repair this ship, but unlikely it will return to service.

Admiral Nakhimov:

Currently in overhaul.

Petr Velikiy:

Only Kirov-class currently in commission and able to go to sea (that is, operations funding permitting).

Yes, the Kirov is very nice, but when you only have one of them, it's pretty useless. A Kirov could arguably take a US carrier, but the US has 12 carriers and the Russians have 1 Kirov. You do the math. Even the Brits could take it out if they needed to.

[Serb]

Originally posted by David Floyd


Oh, so "pizdyulei" means rusting tanks and weapons? Or maybe it just refers to Russia's overall military capability, roughly translated as "****"?

No. It means absolutely different thing. To Russia's overall military capability refers -"opizdyulyayushaya" force.

On the other hand, you can't even pay your own soldiers, so maybe you give them "pizdyulei".

yes...sometimes and not only to soldiers.
We have a saying here- "my bez pizdyuley, kak bez pryanikov" (something like this- "a day without "pizdyuley, it's like a day without candy")

If so, we don't want any, thanks, you see, over here, we PAY our soldiers and FEED them

It doesn't really matter that you don't want some, if you or anyone else would try to capture Siberia, you'll get some 'pizdyuley' regardless how well you soldiers paid and how well they feeded.

Speaking of having enough for everyone, the US certainly had enough Lend Lease for the Soviet Union, certainly enough to greatly benefit every soldier in the Red Army

Notice- you started this crap in this thread, not me.

So, even if so and even if USA had enough Lend Lease for everyone, it's still didn't have balls to invade Germany in 1941.

[Saras]

DF, you have to give them Russians some credit - they had to transition from a command economy to a market economy. Once their industry as a whole starts diversifying away from capital expenditure almost exclusively in the natural resources sector, we'll see this country reborn. And hopefully, a much nicer player globally than throughout history.

[David Floyd]

No. It means absolutely different thing. To Russia's overall military capability refers -"opizdyulyayushaya" force.

Russia's overall military capacity couldn't even fight the war in Chechnya without running out of spare parts for the air force.

It doesn't really matter that you don't want some, if you or anyone else would try to capture Siberia, you'll get some 'pizdyuley' regardless how well you soldiers paid and how well they feeded.

Yeah, snow, cold, and ice is a ***** of a combination - that's what stopped the Germans and the French, after all

So, even if so and even if USA had enough Lend Lease for everyone, it's still didn't have balls to invade Germany in 1941.

The US wasn't even at war with Germany until the end of 1941. Of course, by your same argument, the Soviet Union didn't have the balls to invade Germany in 1941, either

[David Floyd]

DF, you have to give them Russians some credit

I guess, but even at their height their industrial output/capacity didn't even approach the US, nor did their conventional military might and force projection abilities

[Panag]

Originally posted by David Floyd
FYI:

Kirov class warships:

4 total

Admiral Ushakov:

Inactive. Suffered nuclear accident in 1990. Entered shipyard for overhaul in 1999. Unlikely to return to service.

Admiral Lazarev:

Inoperable since early '90s. Russian Navy asking for DONATIONS to help repair this ship, but unlikely it will return to service.

Admiral Nakhimov:

Currently in overhaul.

Petr Velikiy:

Only Kirov-class currently in commission and able to go to sea (that is, operations funding permitting).

Yes, the Kirov is very nice, but when you only have one of them, it's pretty useless. A Kirov could arguably take a US carrier, but the US has 12 carriers and the Russians have 1 Kirov. You do the math. Even the Brits could take it out if they needed to.

hi ,

huh , the kirov holds how many planes , .....

a us large carrier holds how many , ..... a difference of 50+ aircraft , .....

on top of that , the kirov has some serious troubles in his propellor shafts , ....

its a shame russia's military is getting weaker by the day , and its a real danger aswell , .... not only to russian internal security but to world security aswell , ...

does one still need to wonder why so many young male russians ask for emmigration to Israel , ....

have a nice day

[Serb]

Originally posted by David Floyd
Oh I have a good idea what it means, I'm just saying what it realistically means

I mean, seriously - other than a nuke, Russia just doesn't have a lot that could stop, say, a US armored division w/ air support.

You're watching to many Hollywood crap and playing computer games to much.