You be the Judge: What is the appropiate punishment for something like this?

[TCO]

Insert TEd Kennedy taking several hours to report the Mary Joe death remark.

[Boris Godunov]

Any argument that she didn't intend for the guy to die must consider that she conspired with her friends before he died about how to dispose of the body.

[oedo]

oh and btw., I know about 3 degrees of intend:

wanting that someone gets killed (1st degree=dolus directus I)
knowing that someone gets killed (2nd degree=dolus directus II)
not wanting and not knowing for sure, but approving that someone gets killed (3rd dregree= dolus eventualis)

[Velociryx]

Then it's 1st degree. She wanted him to croak so she'd not get charged with driving stoned and drunk. As Boris pointed out above, she even planned with her buddies what to do after.

I say we give her some money and send her into a gravel lot where the Sweeney kid's "friends" are waiting.



-=Vel=-

[C0ckney]

i read about this a while ago, what sick kind of person can leave someone to die trapped in their windscreen, and she's a nurse as well for ****s sake. lock her up and throw away the key.

[SlowwHand]

Left him in the windshield, in her garage.

[Sandman]

It's first degree murder. She wounded him, and then to cover this up, she killed him by actively denying him treatment, by keeping him captive in her garage.

It is a lot like that CSI episode, wonder if it's life imitating art?

[oedo]

I´d say it´s dolus directus II.
by definition of American law that would be 1st degree, right?

[Firelad]

Originally posted by Velociryx
Then it's 1st degree. She wanted him to croak so she'd not get charged with driving stoned and drunk. As Boris pointed out above, she even planned with her buddies what to do after.

I say we give her some money and send her into a gravel lot where the Sweeney kid's "friends" are waiting.



-=Vel=-

what he said.

[Sava]

They should hit her with a car and let her bleed to death.

[Japher]

I agree with Sava

that's odd

[Sava]

I agree with Sava

welcome to the dark side

[Velociryx]

Yeah, but doing that, you'd miss out on the group hug after it was all over.

-=Vel=-

[chequita guevara]

Actually, I'm not sure the actions sustain a murder charge. Murder requires intent. Waiting for someone to die and wondering how to dispose of the body does not show intent to kill, but intent to let someone die. As far as I know, it's not against the law to let someone die, unless you deliberately set up a situation which makes death likely.

Manslaughter, yes.
Leaving the scene of an accident, yes.
Tampering with evidence, yes.

You might be able to sustain 2nd degree murder by saying that by driving to her garage, she intended to create a situation in which she knew someone had a strong likelyhood of dyng, except she was under the influence of drugs, and so her reasoning can easily be called into question. I don't know if a charge of depraved indifference can legally be sustained.

[Velociryx]

As far as I know, it's not against the law to let someone die, unless you deliberately set up a situation which makes death likely.

I would argue that driving home, and leaving the (obviously injured) man bleeding on the front-end of her car in her garage while she went inside to talk with her buds about what to do with his body after he kicked off fits the definition of deliberately setting up a situation that makes death likely.

-=Vel=-