You be the Judge: What is the appropiate punishment for something like this?

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
She DIDN'T intend to kill him when she left him on her windshield for days without medical attention, while he was bleeding?!

No. Just like I didn't intend to kill the african boy who is dying because the money I pay in tax is funding the EU dumping food on hsi province, so his dad doesn't have a job.

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I guess that was just 'not helping', even though she drove the guy home and left him there, not responding to his pleas for help. Yeah, just 'not helping'

Yes. She deserves to go to prison for manslaughter on 2 counts IMHO. That is about 10 years.

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
What are you, INSANE?!

No, I believe justice should serve a purpose. What purpose does locking her up serve? Revenge, plain and simple. And that is it. Can't you understand that some people feel compassion? Some people believe in determinism too, whoch means that they do not believe she is able to control, nor should be responsible for her actions.

[Boris Godunov]

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mallard1.html

Read the whole 8-page affidavit.

[Berzerker]

I believe Texas defines murder more broadly than intent. They have a provision that allows murder charges against people who react like she did (I can't remeber the phrase I heard on the news).

[Zylka]

Wait Imran - so what if he was hidden away dying and immobile from the rest of the able world!

Let's say she instead cemented him some nice block shoes and sent him to the bottom of a local river. The man is drowning and struggling for outside help on his way down - but not technically dead yet, only dying! As she stares through the surface and into his frantic, helpless eyes - she takes no responsibilty for cementing away his ability to escape, no responsibility for leaving him in a situation which WILL kill him, and no responsibilty for not telling able authorities of his plight.

Come to think of it, this might have been a fair situation for the man according to what he actually got. No one would have heard him scream under the water just as locked away in a garage - but they probably would have had a better chance SEEING him without a f*cking CLOSED GARAGE DOOR IN THE WAY

How can you see this as anything but murder?!

[SlowwHand]

She brought it on herself.
Had she simply reported the accident, it would have been grim, but not as grim as she finds herself now.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And so I imagine you have no problems with drunk drivers then?

Not at all. I think it is and should be acrime. I said they were less responsibel for their actions when inebriated, they are stil to soem extent responsible. But if someone takes a drug that means they cannot control themselves at all, they have committed the crime of taking that drug. If they kill someone or not while on that drug, they cannot control it. Therefore why are they less guilty if they don't kill someone than if they do? They have the same intent, the intent to take that drug. What they do on it is not under their control.

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
If they kill someone on the road while drunk... well, they aren't responsible for their actions, let's just let them go, right?

No, you arrest them. However that is not as bad as someone who murders someone, as in shooting them.

[Imran Siddiqui]

No. Just like I didn't intend to kill the african boy who is dying because the money I pay in tax is funding the EU dumping food on hsi province, so his dad doesn't have a job.

ARE YOU THAT DENSE?!

How is not paying for someone else's job anyway comparable to picking up the guy you hit on the road, shoving him INTO your car, and hiding him in your house for days until he dies, so no one will find out that you were high and drunk and ran into a homeless man?!

If you can't see the difference you are an utter moron. In not paying you are 'not helping', in this case, you are 'making things worse'. How can you possibly not see the difference?

How old are you anyway?

What purpose does locking her up serve?

It's called deterrance.

Preventing other idiots from deciding to take a life by preventing anyone from getting the guy they hit medical attention because they decide if they are caught the most they'll get in jail is exactly what they would have gotten if the guy died when they hit them.

It called preventing people from causing someone to die, when he easily could recieve medical attention and live.

Can't you understand that some people feel compassion?

I can't understand ANYONE that would feel compassion for this piece of ****. It'd be like someone saying they feel compassion for Jeffrey Dahmer.

[Zylka]

Originally posted by Drogue
Zylka: I won't even bother replying to most of the message, since it seems to be insults as if we have no clue. We just believe that maybe there would have to be a use for locking her up for it to be just. However on the last point, you obviously didn't watch the episode I was refering to. It was the dealer, at a rave, who went to sell it to them, selling them the dregs at the bottom, when they had never tried drugs before.

You have absolutely no clue - that's my point: so ignore responding if you don't feel capable. Oh, and buying/consuming mysterious seeds which you haven't a f*cking clue of identifying at a rave. THAT IS A 10 OUT OF 10 FOR RESPONSIBILITY - PLEASE LOCK THE DEALER UP AS HE WAS PUSHING A LEGAL SUBSTANCE AND OBVIOUSLY SHOVED IT DOWN THEIR UNWILLING THROATS HIMSELF

[Boris Godunov]

Whether or not the woman was on drugs at the time of the accident is irrelevant. She had two days during which she continually chose not to get help for the man whose condition for which she was responsible, intentionally or not. It is the intentional act of not getting him help for the injuries that she inflicted that makes it intentional murder.

Considering, as that affidavit shows, she wasn't remotely blubbering after the accident happen, I'd chalk up her performance in court to being more concerned with her own fate than anyone else's.

The sentence seems fair. With good behavior, she'll be out long before the 50 years is up.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
What MtG says about California law is irrelevant, and I don't say that in a snotty way.
The case is in Texas.
Her ass is grass.

Very true. I am not arguing that according to Texas law she souldn't have been convicted. Under Texas law it is correct. However I am arguing that she shouldn't be given that long, and thus that I disagree with Texas law on the subject. Arguing more about morals than about law.

[SlowwHand]

Zylka, get a damp cloth, put it over your eyes, and lay back in a dark room.
Think happy thoughts.

[Imran Siddiqui]

However that is not as bad as someone who murders someone, as in shooting them.

What Mallard did was as bad as shooting the guy. She hit him, and then instead of getting help, she took him away to her house, hid him, refused to give him medical attention and waited until he died. She consciously and purposely hindered any attempts to aid him. Not only that, but in hitting him, she owed a duty to him, and she failed to perform that duty at all and instead, as I said, hindered it.

This case is basically like a bunch of drunks who walk out of a bar beat a guy to near death... then talk him to their house, dump him in the garage, and prevent him from getting medical aid, even after they've sobered up. Now if you are going to tell me that isn't murder, there is no hope for you.

I believe Texas defines murder more broadly than intent.

Every state does. Every state has a 'reckless' murder, which is extreme disregard for human life, which this case is obviously a case of.

[Zylka]

I can't do this, Sloww

You have to scream - or the eyes of the dense listener simply glaze over and miss every single defence collapsing point you make

Can you hear me if I simply talk in a deep voice instead? Do you see how this woman dragged a man into confinement and let him drown in blood? Good, we're making progress!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Zylka, get a damp cloth, put it over your eyes, and lay back in a dark room.
Think happy thoughts.

I should do that too... I can't believe someone could be this dense after having the law explained to him and the purpose for it! It's astounding to me. Then again, we have wackos that'll believe in anything.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Zylka: