Why are we so fascinated with things that kill people?

[Lord Merciless]

Nazis were cool because they almost conquered the world with so little to begin with. Their uniforms looked cool, Albert Speer was cool, their goose steps were cool, and they organized nice rallies.

The good guys were pathetic on the otherhand.

[Al B. Sure!]

Pekka:

It is forbidden in schools and other places to do the Heil Hitler stuff.

we did it all the time... but like i said, there was no jews in the school so nobody really cared.

But when you're young, you see them with cooler equipment and then wonder why are they so bad then?

yeah and let's not forget the under-dog aspect of taking on the massive empires of Britain, the SU, and the US... plus you got things like the German fighter ace of aces shooting down 352 planes (i'm not exaggerating) and you're like damn these nazis were like gods...

it's weird though how the Confederacy is not seen in the same light though as they also were an underdog which fought fanatically and had some of the most brilliant and daring generals... plus their very taboo... and yet, they never get the same interest in the young that the nazis do... i guess the whole enslaving Blacks issue turns people off from them... or maybe they just were a bunch of hicks without shooting using 1820 muskets...


thanks

[Al B. Sure!]

Albert Speer was cool

yeah the man was amazing. he was only in his 30's and 40's during the war and he was designing massive buildings and stadiums, organizing complicated rallies, AND serving as minister of armaments... and thats not even mentioning all the work he did supervising the develop of rockets and german nuclear technology. he was a genius as were many of the other prominent nazis. such a waste of intelligence...

[Sava]

guns are kewl! tanks are kewl! German scientists were smart.

nazis are evil ****ers that get ass ****ed in hell!

[Japher]

I think deterent for the Confederacy was the lack of big guns (I mean really big guns)... At least to the young crowd

Actually, there are a lot of people who are facinated by the confedrates as well as the union, and the Civil War in general. I think to address that war takes more maturity as it was not the size of the guns that mattered in that war, but the strategies behind it. IMO, the civil war was a lot greater tactical war, yet it was the same blood fest as WWII.

I don't think the slavery issue moves ppl from it, I think it is the fact that it is more gentlemenish... I.e. we don't fight at night or if it is really bad weather, etc... Heck, no of the ppl posting here seem to be detered from the Nazi and their hatred for Jews, so why would the Conf.'s enslaving blacks be an issue (note; it wasn't just the Conf. that had slavery laws at the start of the war)...

[Elok]

Dressing in all black doesn't make you cool. Goths dress in black too and I personally think they're ridiculous. Bunch of primped-up depressing neo-hippies.
Vader had total atmosphere going for him. I think the voice of James Earl Jones could make anybody impressive, and the ominous hissing was creepy.
And if we weren't obsessed with things that kill people, what would we be obsessed with? Food?

[Cruddy]

I think the obsession is down to male ideas of "cool".

Sex and violence sell. Obviously the older you get the more important the first is.

[GePap]

I think Diss is right when he says that males (women do not in general care much about military hardware) are drawn to violence and conflict: it is part of the male psyche, to be aggressive. I am by no means any sort of fighter: I would do almost evrything to avoid a fight personally, but I have always had a facination with warfare and so forth. for males it promises power and glory and all that would in theory come with that.

Then there is, at a certain level, a modern fascination with gadgets: there is a difference between a tank and a sword, qand certainly airplanes and such. They pormise more than just the ability to destroy. You have the thrills of movement, of speed, andof course, power.

As for the Nazi's. They represent a fascination with extremes. The Nazi's went for AWE, both in the sense of awesome, and awfull.

[Al B. Sure!]

Japher:

Heck, no of the ppl posting here seem to be detered from the Nazi and their hatred for Jews, so why would the Conf.'s enslaving blacks be an issue

well i was speaking more from my experiences and maybe it's just living where most the people is black and the Bars and Stars (thats what its called right?) gets far more hatred here than do the swastika.

though whats odd is that the First World War gets absolutely no attention... but i guess that war was basically like a machine where millions of young men went in and came out shredded

[Japher]

WWI was faught mainly for political reasons. Yes, while all wars are due to political reasons ppl can find motivation apart from the political ones.

Genocide for WWII
Slavery for The American Civil War

Yet, I find it horrible that black men would not be more interested in the Civil War that is falsly dubbed "the war to end slavery", in the same sense that WWII was not a war to free jews, and the current war in Iraq was not to liberate Iraqis.

What now? Jews should ignore their internment (they don't), Iraqis should forget their torturers (I doubt they will), so blacks should forget fighting their way out of slavery? How sad, yet black ppl still like to rant about all the oppression they are still going through today.

Sorry to rant...

Basically, I would think that a black man would find the Civil War, and the black efforts in it, to be very facinating and worthy of a look. Both on the side of the Confederate and on the side of the Union... Did you know that even during the civil war it took a Union Black Man something like 2 years of service to "earn" his freedom?

[Lonestar]

Back on subkect.

The HMS Albion was commissioned last week, the first of a two ship LPD class. It will supplement the Ocean and replace the Fearless.

[Cruddy]

About time. Fearless was a floating wreck with a flag.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Cruddy
About time. Fearless was a floating wreck with a flag.

How can you look at this and feel disgusted?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yeah, the Nazis were always considered cool, probably because they were powerful. Kinda like the Empire in Star Wars. After all in a WW2 game, who do most people always play first? Yep... the 'cool' Germans .

[Shi Huangdi]

Growing up in a largely Jewish neighberhood, I was spared from any Nazi BS.