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  • US invades Syria - briefly. Was it legal?

    CNN has a story about how US forces attacked six vehicles on an Iraqi highway heading to Syria.




    After the initial attack, a person was spotted on foot near the border with Syria. U.S. special operations forces pursued the individual, and some Syrian border guards showed up, the sources said.

    Pentagon officials said at that point the U.S. troops may have crossed the Syrian border. In any event, there was an engagement and three Syrians were wounded. They received medical treatment from the U.S. military. It's not clear if they were shot from the ground or from the air.

    Some local villagers have claimed the people killed in the attack were sheep smugglers. Pentagon officials said they might have been smugglers, but said U.S. intelligence strongly suggests high-level Iraqis, not sheep, were their cargo.

    Most of the 20 people captured in the attack have been released, Pentagon officials said.


    So if US forces actually crossed into Syria, was it legal? Was it justified?

    CNN doesn't say how many people were killed.

    NY Times reports: "At least one of the Iraqi vehicles destroyed in the attack was hit by American attack helicopters on the Syrian side of the border, the officials said. They said three of the five Syrian border guards, who exchanged gunfire with American ground forces, remained in American custody for medical treatment."
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    No, sheep smuggling is a capital offense in all countries.
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    • #3
      Those sheep are WMDs! Our intelliegence says so! And they are never wrong when it comes to WMD's!
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      • #4
        "So if US forces actually crossed into Syria, was it legal? "

        Does it matter?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by DaShi
          No, sheep smuggling is a capital offense in all countries.
          I thought that was only in Wales and New Zealand.
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          • #6
            Syria can suck it
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #7
              There's a report out — on CNN, at least — indicating that the *five* Syrians border guards in U.S. medical custody may not really be Syrian border guards at all. Syria has been remarkably quiet in regards to the whole incident, which is leading to public speculation that "there's more going on than meets the eye."

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              • #8
                Depends on what the border treaties are and what you define as legal... but lots of precedent for "hot pursuit" across a border.

                Most law enforcers don't follow US state trooper policy of stopping at the border...

                Anyway, it's conjecture anyway. The Iraq Syria border has very few official check points or markers - most of the locals don't know (or indeed, care) which side of the border they're on.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GePap
                  Those sheep are WMDs! Our intelliegence says so! And they are never wrong when it comes to WMD's!
                  Your 'intelligence' has been playing too much Worms then!

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                  • #10
                    In the middle of the area they were in, it would be really hard to tell exactly were that border was and when you crossed. It isn't like they have a fence all the way across.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Meldor
                      In the middle of the area they were in, it would be really hard to tell exactly were that border was and when you crossed. It isn't like they have a fence all the way across.
                      They've got GPS though. I'd imagine they knew pretty well where the border was. Besides, if they shot up a bunch of Syrian border guards there must have been an outpost of some kind.

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                      • #12
                        Probably illegal. So why isn't Syria complaining? It is probably because they know that they are guilty of aiding and abetting the world's newest "most dangerous" terrorist...Saddam Hussein (recently demoted from tyranical dictator). Syria would probably prefer to stay out of any spotlights with the 3rd and 4th ID right next door.
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                        • #13
                          If Syria doesn't like it they can attack us.

                          actually I shouldn't say that. They support terrorists who want us all dead.

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                          • #14
                            Who gives a **** apart from raving liberals who only want yet another excuse to have a petty dig at the freedom- and democracy-loving state of America.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Andrew1999


                              They've got GPS though. I'd imagine they knew pretty well where the border was...
                              GPS only tells you where you are on a map. It doesn't tell you how accurate the map is - and borders are generally dependant on who drew the map.

                              Originally posted by Andrew1999
                              Besides, if they shot up a bunch of Syrian border guards there must have been an outpost of some kind.
                              Who might have been lost as well.
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