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Well, didn't take long for THAT thread to reach capacity....shall we continue? 
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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
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AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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I am not prepared to sit back and allow, communist infiltration, communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international communist conspiracy, to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.Comment
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And Alva brought up a good point.
The WHOLE point is quality of life, no?
I mean, economic systems do not, in and of themselves, serve any external purpose. They serve US. The people in them.
So....a comparison of standard of living between failed and current communist systems vs. capitalist-oriented systems seems in order....I'm surprised too, that it hasn't come up before.
Anybody from the red camp wanna take a crack at explaining how, in looking at former and current communist systems in place around the world today are comparing with their counterparts?
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Glad you liked the title Alva (and I already got the next one cooked up too....if we haven't petered out by then )
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I never thought I'd say that I'd like a good petering.Originally posted by Velociryx
EDIT: Glad you liked the title Alva (and I already got the next one cooked up too....if we haven't petered out by then )
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Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!Comment
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*chegitz flouridates (or is that Floridate) Lonestar's water.Originally posted by Lonestar
I am not prepared to sit back and allow, communist infiltration, communist indoctrination, communist subversion, and the international communist conspiracy, to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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I am a ****ing moron!
NOW I get Jack D. Ripper's name. 
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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What the hell are you talking about?
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Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!Comment
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About time.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I am a ****ing moron! NOW I get Jack D. Ripper's name.
My Sig sums up my position rather nicely.Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.Comment
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On-topic sidenote:
(6-16-03 08:03:11pm to 6-20-03 07:37:12pm)
25 minutes 59 seconds short of 4 days. That's how long it took to get from the first post to the locked post. 505 posts I believe.
Is that a record time for a thread?
The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.
The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.Comment
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Classic, Tuberski!
And now that Che has joined the fight, I've got some questions for him as well (since Kid seems to be hiding from me):
1) What is the definition of "exploitation" being bandied about these days (precisely, I mean)? I think a thorough understanding of that word, in particular, is pivotal to the debate.
2) You are an active member of a communist group. IS there any solid discussion about what happens when the revolution comes? Ways to avoid the mistakes of the past? Ways to ensure that a dictatorial power doesn't rise up as has happened to every other communist attempt? If so, what are they? What steps are being planned (if any) to prevent it?
3) It seems to me (admittedly, someone who has read Marx and blew it off, and someone who has never had a communist affiliation of any kind), it seems to me that the whole theory is starry-eyed and not very realistic (relying on man's good nature to do what's best for society as a whole, seeming to ignore human greed and thirst for power). Is this accurate, and if not, WHY not?
Curious minds wanna know! (and please do not think I'm asking these questions to bait or belittle, I AM genuinely curious!)
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Dr. StrangeloveOriginally posted by Tuberski
What the hell are you talking about?
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Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.Comment
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Communism, especially the Marxist version, is an idea that strips the individual of all property and rights. Ergo, it's bad.Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.Comment
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