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  • #46
    Have you tried that Omega site link I posted?

    The guy who runs it also has a setup like yours... which leads me to think his driver is worth trying.

    Connecting a video card and powering up does no harm. The BIOS realises there is no video and usually beeps a few tirmes and closes down.

    When you power up again with the video card, the BIOS recognizes something's been added and has a shot at firing up - sometimes there's no point fiddling around with Windows, you have to go all the way back to the BIOS settings.

    Pain in the arse, I know.
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    • #47
      I have. I even followed the "overly anal method of unistalling drivers guide" at Rage3d, too. I don't see how taking it out and puting it back in while the computer is off is going to make any difference. And it didn't.

      As long as your PC is plugged in, there is some currenrt on your MB
      Therefore taking the graph card and reinstalling it might have some results.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Osweld
        I was going to do that, but then realised that without it I wouldn't be able to connect my monitor...
        Are there any drivers that come with the mobos you need to install? Are there any BIOS upgrades?

        BTW, what I meant was removing the card from the device manager, as alva said. But nevermind.
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        • #49
          Xp has a habit of keeping old driver info, at a glance you have the common 2 video bill gates inc flaw. Best way to get rid of that is a fresh install. Go NTFS this time.

          Three things to correct your problem, make sure you have the latest bios flash to enable 400mhz fsb. Next dump the ati on that mother board go nvidia after all that is the chipset and what it was designed to use.

          Next dump the 2700 grab the pc3200 I think the last point is never upgrade always do a full install.

          If your local store put this machine together for you, go back to them and ask them to make the changes, nicely

          If they do not give you similar and or better parts for not cost to you what so ever, complain to the manager.
          Please email me for the exact reasons these changes to your machine should be done.

          I will personally contact them at that point and ask them to do it for you.

          The combination of these parts should never have been done in the first place. That goes for win98se or xp or what ever. The board with the video card let alone the 2700 ram is simply all mismatched.
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          • #50
            Well, I was going to try updating my BIOS today, but ca't figure out what PCB my motherboard is. I am told that it is supposed to say the version number by the ASUS logo on the motherboard.... but I do not see it.

            I did a bench mark with the performance test that comes with Norton Systemworks and my lowest scores where with the disk drive... which brings me to something I should maybe of mentioned before, I have a SATA hard drive. (Sea Gate Baracuda ST380023AS)
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Osweld
              Well, I was going to try updating my BIOS today, but...
              Best of luck with that.

              And HAVE YOU TRIED THAT OMEGA DRIVER YET?

              FOR THE 2ND TIME OF ASKING?

              You could at least tell me it was a crock... but judging from the write ups I've seen, it does actually sort out a lot of problems with XP, Radeon 9700 and your motherboard.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Cruddy


                Best of luck with that.

                And HAVE YOU TRIED THAT OMEGA DRIVER YET?

                FOR THE 2ND TIME OF ASKING?

                You could at least tell me it was a crock... but judging from the write ups I've seen, it does actually sort out a lot of problems with XP, Radeon 9700 and your motherboard.
                heh, no. The website looked dodgy. If haven't said I've done something, assume I haven't.



                Maybe I will try that tommorow.
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                • #53
                  Omega drivers are just hacked ATI drivers, but they do ridiculous things like default the LOD bias to -3 under the impression that it increases image quality, when in reality it introduces texture aliasing...
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                  • #54
                    I plan on trying a partition and new install of winXp tommorow, too.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Asher
                      Omega drivers are just hacked ATI drivers, but they do ridiculous things like default the LOD bias to -3 under the impression that it increases image quality, when in reality it introduces texture aliasing...
                      Maybe, but if it works what is the issue?

                      At least somebody is actually trying to find a away round the XP deficiency rather than sitting on the arse waiting for MS to do it.
                      Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Cruddy
                        Maybe, but if it works what is the issue?

                        At least somebody is actually trying to find a away round the XP deficiency rather than sitting on the arse waiting for MS to do it.
                        Um.
                        If a new driver fixes the problem, why is it an XP deficiency rather than a driver deficiency?

                        And from what I've heard, Omega drivers cause more problems than they solve.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Asher

                          Um.
                          If a new driver fixes the problem, why is it an XP deficiency rather than a driver deficiency?
                          Because it happens under XP but not under 98?

                          Originally posted by Asher

                          And from what I've heard, Omega drivers cause more problems than they solve.
                          Well, do tell. I'm pretty sure I made it clear that any 3rd party drivers are used at your own risk... But like I said before, if they work, what is the issue?
                          Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Cruddy
                            Because it happens under XP but not under 98?
                            Do you realize that Win2K/XP and Win98 have entirely different drivers?

                            Just because it's not a bug with the 98 drivers but is with the XP drivers doesn't mean it's an XP problem. It means the XP driver has a bug...which isn't exactly a rare thing for ATI drivers.

                            Well, do tell. I'm pretty sure I made it clear that any 3rd party drivers are used at your own risk... But like I said before, if they work, what is the issue?
                            If they work, there is no issue. They're just stupid drivers some geeks with too much spare time did with stock ATI drivers and tweaking settings.

                            They're a waste of time IMO, which is why no one takes them seriously in the 3D graphics communities.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Asher

                              Do you realize that Win2K/XP and Win98 have entirely different drivers?

                              Just because it's not a bug with the 98 drivers but is with the XP drivers doesn't mean it's an XP problem. It means the XP driver has a bug...which isn't exactly a rare thing for ATI drivers.
                              I suggest you go back to the start of this thread and read. Osweld's problems do not occur on 98. They happen on XP. I suggest you READ the Omega site before dismissing it.

                              Do the words "overly protective" or "precious" mean anything to you, Mr "Sieg Heil Bill"?

                              Originally posted by Asher

                              If they work, there is no issue. They're just stupid drivers some geeks with too much spare time did with stock ATI drivers and tweaking settings.

                              They're a waste of time IMO, which is why no one takes them seriously in the 3D graphics communities.
                              The 3D graphics communities? The mind boggles. Do these communities take the issue of a nice set of hardware being a COMPLETE PILE OF JUNK UNDER XP?

                              Sounds like a screwed up set of priorities to me.

                              Maybe it will work, maybe it won't. It's Osweld's call. By the way Osweld, if they don't work you were going to do a reformat and reinstall anyway... So where is the harm in trying them?
                              Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Cruddy
                                I suggest you go back to the start of this thread and read. Osweld's problems do not occur on 98. They happen on XP. I suggest you READ the Omega site before dismissing it.
                                I understand that.

                                What you do not seem to understand is that XP and 98 are entirely different codebases, and XP drivers and 98 drivers are entirely different codebases.

                                So when upgrading from 98 to XP, and you run into problems, it's not an XP problem by default. In this case, ATI's XP drivers or the motherboard's XP drivers are clearly to blame.

                                You're making a ridiculous conclusion that it's an XP flaw. What's even more ridiculous is you say yourself that frequently using a new driver fixes the problem, but you still insist this is an XP flaw.

                                Why don't you think about that a bit before replying again to save me time and you further embarassment?

                                The 3D graphics communities? The mind boggles. Do these communities take the issue of a nice set of hardware being a COMPLETE PILE OF JUNK UNDER XP?

                                Sounds like a screwed up set of priorities to me.

                                Man, you're losing it...

                                It's not the 3D graphics communities problem if ATI/motherboard drivers have bugs.

                                You're welcome to come join Beyond3D to discuss this further with me. ATI, Nvidia, Matrox, etc. all have driver developers who post there, like feedback, and help out. There's also a bunch of game developers and hardware reviewers from many sites that post regularly there.

                                They'll just tell you what I've been saying.

                                And go ahead and ask them what they think of the Omega drivers.
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