Republicans are too Liberal!!!

[Sava]

and yet people do it regularily... trust me. i'm not making this up.

Don't take this personally, but there really is a lot going on outside of your little corner of the world. The few dozen cases of welfare abuse that you have no doubt witnessed, does not represent the entirety of the system.

[DinoDoc]

Would you care to post something other than a useless appeal to emotion if you'd care to respond to me? I realize that maybe more than your limited intellect can bear but at least give it a try.

[Sava]

Would you care to post something other than a useless appeal to emotion if you'd care to respond to me? I realize that maybe more than your limited intellect can bear but at least give it a try

Sure, go back a page. I posted tons of factual material compiled from persons more intelligent and rational than myself. I know you don't give a sh1t about anyone else outside of yourself. Emotional appeal doesn't work on those without conscience. That's why I posted the facts first. Don't hold me responsible if you are unable to read/comprehend them.

[monkspider]

Dino-D: I know you're just trolling, but wanting to help people does not translate to wanting to help buisness institutions. You could say "Well gee wiz monkspider, corporations are made up of people, and corporations provide the fine products you buy such as Mr. Bubble brand bubble bath." I would say that people who need help, should be helped regardless of any affiliation (or lack of affiliation) to these various institutions, that they should not even factor into the equation.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Sava
Sure, go back a page.

Would you care to post the section actually relevent to my question because I don't care to wade through your morass of cut and paste crap.

[Berzerker]

A 2 party system is mandatory.

Where's the second party then?

[Dis]

giving the poor money makes them poorer?

somehow I doubt that.

[Berzerker]

giving the poor money makes them poorer?

somehow I doubt that.

Counter-intuitive, but might be true. Once you provide the poor with a stable source of money from the government, many lose the desire to work and advance up the labor ladder. We see alot of inter-generational welfare. Reagan said, "the liberal approach to government is: if it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidise it."

[Al B. Sure!]

Monkspider:

corporations provide the fine products you buy such as Mr. Bubble brand bubble bath."

that had me cracking up...


anyway, i think the status quo when it comes to welfare is probably the best. it is not especially costly (only a couple dollars a year from each tax-payer) and there are some more restrictions than a few years ago which cut down on the problems of welfare... the welfare to work program, while not perfect in that welfare recieptents' kids sometimes are left alone and they start acting up and doing ****, is still, basically, the best way to get people to learn how to fish.

i do think however that two main ideas will make welfare obsolete... more businesses in urban and especially rural areas (I wont front... rural alabama is far poorer than philly) would provide more jobs and really, i dont care what leftists say about wages or what not, give someone a full-time job and they'll do alright.

the other problem is such things as teenage pregnancy and drug use, which not only makes the individual poor but just about everyone around them. stop sex and drugs and there'll be some more economic stability among the poor and lower middle class


thanks

[Whaleboy]

Anyone who believes in Libertarianism as a political system is nuts

How exactly does that work?

Albert: While it may be a problem, fiscally it is not a huge issue for government, and certainly does not affect whether the republicans are liberal.

[Dis]

libertarianism is the way to go- ideally.

obviously 100 % libertarian goverment is not possible. But I do believe economically it is possible.