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    From BBC :

    Berlusconi on brink of immunity
    The Italian parliament is set to give final approval to a law which would make make Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi immune from prosecution as long as he holds the job.

    The decision, expected in the lower house of parliament, would almost certainly kill off a current corruption trial in Milan, at which Mr Berlusconi gave evidence on Tuesday.

    The immunity law has already been approved by the upper house of parliament, the Senate, and is not expected to face any hurdles in the lower house, where Mr Burlusconi holds a comfortable majority.

    The law bans any court proceedings against the holders of Italy's five most senior posts as long as they remain in office.

    "It is not intended to suspend the trials once and for all, but to enable the top state officials to mount a better, calmer and thorough defence"
    Francesco Nitto Palma
    Forza Italia magistrate


    It has been rushed through parliament in a move which critics say is designed solely to save Mr Berlusconi from facing a verdict in the trial.

    The timing could have been particularly embarrassing, as Mr Berlusconi is about to lead Italy into its six-month presidency of the European Union.

    If the bill is passed as expected, the Milan corruption trial will have to be halted until Mr Berlusconi has left office.

    By then, too much time will have elapsed for a resumption to be legally possible. His current term of office runs out in 2006, but he may seek re-election.

    In the Milan case, Mr Berlusconi is accused of trying to bribe judges to stop a business rival taking over state-owned food group SME in the 1980s.

    Mr Berlusconi told the court yesterday that the charges against him were "fantasy".

    A decision in parliament is expected later on Wednesday.

    Italy's opposition parties are furious at the immunity plan, describing it as unconstitutional.

    But supporters of the law say it makes Italian law similar to that in many other countries, and merely restores rights which were removed in the "Clean Hands" anti-corruption drive a decade ago.

    "It is not intended to suspend the trials once and for all, but to enable the top state officials to mount a better, calmer and thorough defence" if they do go to court, said Francesco Nitto Palma, a magistrate and supporter of Mr Berlusconi's Forza Italia party.

    Court challenge?

    The opposition might take its case to Italy's Constitutional Court, but any ruling would take months to make.

    Under the law, magistrates can investigate allegations against the five top figures, but cannot bring them to trial.

    As well as the prime minister, the law also covers the president, the speakers in both houses of parliament and the president of Italy's constitutional court.

    Mr Berlusconi is Italy's richest man, heading a multi-billion euro empire that encompasses broadcasting, banking, publishing and the AC Milan football club.

    He says the corruption case in Milan is part of a left-wing campaign.

    He likened the proceedings against him to a murder trial with missing key components.

    "There is no body here, there is no murder weapon, there is no motive," he said.
    Story from BBC NEWS:


    I love it when politicians modify the law so that they are above the law. This law really fits my opinion of Berlusconi
    "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
    "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
    "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

  • #2
    Well, he told not only the charges against him were "fantasy", he also said it was an evil conspiracy against him.

    So it must be true
    Blah

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    • #3
      Hopefully the courts will strike it down.
      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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      • #4
        Well, in France, it is actually the constitutional judges who pushed FOR Chirac to be protected from trials. I'm sure they can do this kind of things in Italy too

        (My all-time favorite [The Economist[/i]'s cover was the one featuring Chirac and the "Liberty - Equality - Impunity" motto. I hope they'll find a witty cover for Berlusconi too )
        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
        "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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        • #5
          What ? Nobody wants to laugh / yell at Berlusconi for that ? Is this thing too typical Italian for you people to even bother ?

          This guy has just changed the law for his individual profit (i.e get away with his corruption) and you don't care one bit ?
          "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
          "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
          "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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          • #6
            but isn't that undemocratic?


            where are the EU armies marching into rome?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Spiffor
              Nobody wants to laugh
              unfortunately it's no laughing matter

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              • #8
                The extraordinary shamelessness of Berlusconi is how open he hijacks politics for his private interests and still he'll proabably win the next elections although he polarizes so much.
                It really enrages me how furious all Europe acted when Austria got Haider's party into the government. I hate our current government, but it shows the double standards with which Europe operates. At least our government has not attacked the legal state or democracy yet, Berlusconi does both of it and Europe keeps silent.
                "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                • #9
                  haider was a racist fascist berlusconi is a fully corrupted clown. maybe that explains it.

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                  • #10
                    on that matter the EU should have started proceedings against the amazing concentration of media power berlusconi holds.

                    it would be prefectly legal too.

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                    • #11
                      Wernazuma, please... maybe you should just stop voting for Jörgiboy and join the democratic millions, then you might understand why nazis get boycotted and corrupt conservatives don't.

                      Not that Berlusconi wouldn't support fascism... he just hasn't been as open about it as Jörgi...

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                      • #12
                        paiktis -

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ecthelion
                          Wernazuma, please... maybe you should just stop voting for Jörgiboy and join the democratic millions, then you might understand why nazis get boycotted and corrupt conservatives don't.
                          Not that Berlusconi wouldn't support fascism... he just hasn't been as open about it as Jörgi...
                          What? I'm voting for the green party, so stop trolling. Haider's fascist opinions are not any worse compared to what Bossi and Fini have said in the past. That's not making a point for Haider, it's making a point against the Italian government.
                          Berlusconi is just corrupted right, but Jörg was never our Chancelor, Schüssel is. And he is, well, not worse than Berlusconi, so much for sure.
                          It's dead obvious that the sanctions against Austria were done because it was a small country, while nobody wants to mess with Italy. I can't see anything which has been done in Austria in the past few years which was close to being so scandalous and ruining the legal state as Berlusconi is diong right now.
                          "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                          "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by paiktis22
                            on that matter the EU should have started proceedings against the amazing concentration of media power berlusconi holds.

                            it would be prefectly legal too.
                            That would be something, but nobody does it. That's what I'm talking about.
                            "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                            "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                            • #15
                              Well to be 100% correct you'd have to ask roland or somebody familiar with EU law to know for sure if the cummunity competition rules can "attack" the media ownership nexus berlusconi has created.

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