America Threatens to Give North Korea What it Wants: Panic Ensues

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
North Korea sucks, and is a land of morons.

Dislike it's government, fine, but don't demonise a country's population...you are becoming the same victim of this mentality yourself...those in glass houses you know

[Arrian]

NK demands US with draw forces.
US withdraws forces.
NK screams the evil imperialists are making things worse.

And this is different from their behavior in the past how? They pull this **** all the time.

But we're expected to bend over backwards to accomodate them. **** that.

I really hope the SK government grows a spine in the near future.

-Arrian

[Main_Brain]

which is now one of China's top five trading partners

Like Russia to Germany before barbarossa?

[Dis]

we could really give them what they want and actually attack them

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Arrian
I really hope the SK government grows a spine in the near future.

Fat chance.

[Arrian]

I know, Dino, I know. But I can still hope.

-Arrian

[Q Classic]

what do you define as "growing a spine"?

[CerberusIV]

Is the US now trying to do to NK what it did to the Soviets when Reagan was President? I mean raise the game so that running a military that is capable of doing anything becomes so expensive for NK that the country cannot support it and they either have to change their ways or face a collapse.

[Seeker]

What does a 'collapse' look like?

The population is stratified into different classes and highly controlled there. Millions of the 'worker drone' class could die and it wouldn't affect the bosses much more than creating paperwork.

And don't waste time thinking about the people 'rising up', they'd be slaughtered.

I think a 'collapse' would be once shortages started affecting the officer class, which would mean for the common people it would be REALLY bad.

[CerberusIV]

It really comes down to whether the NK system can produce a Gorbachev figure who will recognise that it can't go on and will front the changes. I have my doubts and suspect this could end in rather more than tears for all concerned.

Unless a large chunk of the army leadership decides to have a popular revolution Romanian style. Again, it doesn't seem likely.

Presumably it will largely come down to what the PRC decide is in their best interests.

[Q Classic]

a "go ba chap"? (one way to koreanify the name~) not likely. the dear leader views himself as the hero of the nation, and doesn't take very well to anybody who could conceivably rival him in power.

meaning, nobody is in line for succession, so his death would result in a good bit of uncertainty and power-plays among the higher ups.

in any case, the end of nkorea would still result in years of hardship on both sides of the 38th parallel.

[Az]

"go ba chap"? I am sorry, but...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
what do you define as "growing a spine"?

At this point? Demanding reciprocity for the aid they give the DPRK would be enough to satisfy me.

[Q Classic]

At this point? Demanding reciprocity for the aid they give the DPRK would be enough to satisfy me.

although they haven't actually started cutting off aid, president no (more commonly romanized roh) has started to threaten that the south will be unable to continue assisting the north if the north doesn't denuclearize.

During talks last month between Pyongyang and Seoul, South Korean officials warned they might, in fact, make their own economic aid contingent on better behavior. According to a South Korean official, the message from Seoul was "we will no longer automatically supply everything to our brethren. We will not provide a blank check."

while not yet official policy, things are looking that way, especially after losing a lot of national support because of nkorea's actions.

[mindseye]

Brilliant strategic move! Why can't we have more like this?