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    Fifth straight day of zero new cases in the city. Today is also the day where there are no new cases in the PRC and Taiwan.

    Good news indeed.
    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

  • #2
    Which city? Singapore? Go Singapore!

    Toronto had a new outbreak a couple of weeks ago, as I recall.
    Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost.

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    • #3
      Not S'pore, you silly person.
      (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
      (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
      (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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      • #4
        interesting. I just read this article:

        ✓ kritisch, ✓ meinungsstark, ✓ informativ! Telepolis hinterfragt die digitale Gesellschaft und ihre Entwicklung in Politik, Wirtschaft & Medien.


        SARS Wars

        John Horvath 16.06.2003

        Has the US been covering up the number of SARS patients it has?

        As Canada continues [1] to struggle in its fight against SARS, with thousands of people still in quarantine, questions are beginning to be raised about
        the possibility of the US downplaying the scale of the epidemic in its own country. Conversely, accusations have recently flown about a man who flew
        from Toronto to North Carolina allegedly affected with the illness. This has raised fears in Canada that a travel warning will once again be soon
        imposed on the city of Toronto.

        From the beginning, many had wondered why the severity of SARS in North America was centered mostly in Toronto. This was all the more puzzling since it's
        widely acknowledged that the Canadian health care system is far superior to that of the US. While Canadians enjoy the benefits of universal health care, many
        Americans are without any form of health insurance whatsoever.

        Consequently, this has led many to believe that the number of SARS cases in the US is vastly under-reported. Moreover, many who may be ill are not seeking
        treatment since the US system clearly discriminates against the poor and immigrants. Indeed, in the case of the latter, because of their illegal status their main fear is
        that if they go to the hospital they would be subsequently deported.

        Since Toronto is Canada's main travel hub, it should come as no surprise that within the vast country SARS was centered in that particular city. At the same time,
        however, many travellers to Canada merely use the country as a stepping stone to the US. In particular, Toronto is a well-known gateway for Asian migrants to
        North America. Once in Toronto, many make their way to New York City by a variety of overland routes. Once in New York they are able to blend more easily
        into the cosmopolitan mosaic. From there, organised ethnic networks enable some to move further to other parts of the country, to as far as Los Angeles on the West
        Coast.

        It's for this reason that some Americans didn't mind when Canada's largest city was put on the travel warning in April, as they were all too aware of the potential
        health risk posed by the Toronto to New York migration channel. Still, what has some worried now is that despite the initial measures, some may have gotten
        through. Moreover, because of their illegal status and the fear of deportation, ill migrants may have been spreading the disease far wider than what official statistics
        claim.

        In addition to this, some are also wondering whether the authorities aren't contributing to the deflated figures [2] by not pursuing suspect cases aggressively enough.
        During the first outbreak in Canada, even the Canadian government deflated its own figures by using its own standard to determine who was infected with SARS. As
        a result, it has been acknowledged that this practice may have contributed to the second epidemic which Canada is now struggling with.

        There is also a political aspect to all of this, which further raises some doubts. There is no question that if a SARS epidemic breaks out in the US comparable to what
        Toronto has been experiencing, it will be a major blow to the White House. Not only is the US health care system woefully unable to cope with such a disaster, it
        would also sharply redirect people's attention to domestic issues, namely health insurance and prescription drugs. Coming just before an election year, this would be a
        major setback for George W. Bush.

        So far, the Republicans have been able to avoid dealing with domestic issues, and even renegade on some of their promises, by focusing national attention firmly on
        the war on terrorism, supposed weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and, more recently, the Middle East peace process. A SARS epidemic would change all this
        and shift the focus back to domestic issues, including non-health related problems such as Wall Street corruption.

        Prior to September 2001 the Republicans were failing miserably as the Bush administration moved from one crisis to another. Many had lost their faith in American
        capitalism, along with their capital. The attacks in New York City and Washington were thus a godsend, for it immediately gave the White House the reprieve it
        needed. As a result, the Republicans were able to gain more power a short time later during the mid-term elections in 2002.

        But now it looks as though time may be running out. Perhaps the only hope for George W. Bush and his Republicans at this point is another terror attack in the US.

        Links

        [1] http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N01151875.htm
        [2] http://www.cdc.gov/od/oc/media/sars.htm
        justice is might

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        • #5
          There are a lot of "may have's" and "could have's" and other such assundry qualifiers in that article. Given that the entire opinion piece is nothing but a huge "what-if" that covers 9-11, the 2002 elections, the SARS epidemic, the supposed loss of "faith in American capitalism*", etc. it is really irrelevant to this issue.

          *Huh? Since when?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by oedo
            interesting. I just read this article:
            I love wierd conspiracy theories.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #7
              No the US did not cover up any cases of SARs it may of had.. that is why there were no deaths.

              But now it looks as though time may be running out. Perhaps the only hope for George W. Bush and his Republicans at this point is another terror attack in the US.


              No...
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #8


                We've been covering up our leper colonies, too.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SlowwHand


                  We've been covering up our leper colonies, too.
                  You mean to say Happy Fun Camps.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #10
                    When you think about it, it doesn't make a lot of sense that the US did not suffer a similar SARS outbreak to Toronto's, given the proximity and close ties between the two countries.
                    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                    • #11
                      I seem to have more faith in the incompetence of an organization that bought 500$ toilet seats than you do. Unless of corse you care to tell me how one would go about covering up a Toronto sized outbreak in a major city and not in the boonies of China.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #12
                        Didn't you hear? Bush and America are evil... EVIL, I tells ya!!!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JohnT
                          Didn't you hear? Bush and America are evil... EVIL, I tells ya!!!
                          but, but, but, by my system of gross generalization of an entire people based on miniscule sample cases, that makes ME evil! could this be a flaw in my bigoted syst...

                          oh, right...

                          carry on.
                          "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                          - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                          • #14
                            We cover up our mass slaughters of cattle with Mad Cow disease too.

                            Nobody here (in the city I live in) has been effected. Not a blip on local radio, local TV, no reports of bed shortages at hospitals. Nada.

                            -=Vel=-
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Velociryx
                              Not a blip on local radio, local TV, no reports of bed shortages at hospitals. Nada.
                              If I don't hear about something then it never happened.

                              Seriously, though, that argument isn't going to convince any conspiracy theorists. If it had been reported on the news it wouldn't be a conspiracy, would it?

                              Frankly, I couldn't care less if there were SARS cases in the US.
                              If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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