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  • #31
    No, but it is a way. Generally I doubt any proof would be required since I'd suspect that they'd expect someone who is lying to slip up.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Apocalypse
      Not all religious institutions hire based on religion. I went to a Catholic high school and half my history teachers were anti-catholic to a small extent, they just didn't say things openly all but a couple times.
      Or they might have been Jesuits. (Most Jesuits I know hate the Church hierarchy).

      As for discrimination in employment practices ...

      If the church is employing someone to do job x - the only consideration should be can they do job x. I see no reason for churches or other religious organizations to be able to discriminate. Let them follow the same rules as everyone else.
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      • #33
        Except Jesuits aren't allowed to teach at my old high school...the rival school is run by Jesuits.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Apocalypse
          No, but it is a way. Generally I doubt any proof would be required since I'd suspect that they'd expect someone who is lying to slip up.
          So it is eally the worst kind of discrimination since it can be totally subjective.
          Statistical anomaly.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by DAVOUT
            So it is eally the worst kind of discrimination since it can be totally subjective.
            Except that isn't what I said at all.

            I'm against this type of funding, btw, but for different reasons.

            No one would loose a job because people don't think someone is a member of a certain religion if that person really is a member of that religion because there are numerous ways to bring up evidence.
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            • #36
              In matter of religious orientation, there are no possible evidence, only appearances. Faith can never be proven, absence of faith cannot as well.
              Statistical anomaly.
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              • #37
                What are you trying to say? Seriously, you know that has really nothing to do with this issue. I wasn't trying to debate anything, just answer a simple question. Grow up.
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                • #38
                  I think Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave right now. I think religious schools should be banned they are a bad influence on children. There goes my teaching career I was lookinf forward to, I bet I will see a sign that says "no athiests or agnostics allowed.

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                  • #39
                    "we just don't want the jews undermining our catholic preschools, duh"

                    Should fundies who think all jews are going to hell be allowed to teach at jewish preschools?
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Odin
                      I think Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave right now. I think religious schools should be banned they are a bad influence on children. There goes my teaching career I was lookinf forward to, I bet I will see a sign that says "no athiests or agnostics allowed.
                      That violate the religious freedoms you guys are trying to protect... STUPID

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                      • #41
                        Damn it! I asked a genuine question.
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                        • #42
                          I see no problem with this bill. Religious teaching facilities should be able to exercise their freedom of association right to not associate with certain people (those of other religions). The alternative is that these institutions go totally private instead or drop out altogether. Hell, I was a Muslim that went to a Catholic preschool. I didn't suddenly become Catholic because of it. It had no effect on my religious beliefs.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by The Templar
                            Let them follow the same rules as everyone else.
                            The "rule" is to hire whoever you want until the state imposes some regulatory scheme on hiring practices. Churches aren't generally subject to state regulatory power (that pesky little Establishment Clause), so the original "rule" of hiring who you want still applies.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Odin
                              There goes my teaching career I was lookinf forward to, I bet I will see a sign that says "no athiests or agnostics allowed.
                              You were planning on teaching in church schools? (since they're the only ones affected by this)
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


                                You were planning on teaching in church schools? (since they're the only ones affected by this)
                                Many big private colleges are somewhat religious.

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