Is our current strategy against terrorism working?

[chequita guevara]

I'll bet that's what the folks in OKCity thought.

[Shi Huangdi]

So far no attacks against the mainland since 9/11.

[Edan]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
So far no attacks against the mainland since 9/11.

Well, no attacks from Al Qaeda, at any rate.

(Of course, they've succeeded in attacks in other countries, but I guess that doesn't matter )

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
So far no attacks against the mainland since 9/11.

The correct wording would be "colonies"

[Whaleboy]

So what some of you are saying is that we shuold destroy the culture from which terrorists come? Any muslims here want to comment on that?

[Edan]

If a culture revere's terrorism, I have no problem destroying that aspect (the revereing of terrorism) of that culture.

[Whaleboy]

A culture is part of ones personality, it is a force that binds people together, whilst serving as the means for educating a people in the ways of that land, that history, that people etc. It is an integral part of how people think, and of what people are, be that a tangible culture or one that is idealised in the mind of the individual, nonetheless, I do not believe that it is ever right to forcibly destroy it.

With regards to the native americans, ask them what they call America before white people came, and they say "ours". Their cultures have been violated abused, and have ended up, as cultures and peoples, being mere shadows of what they once were, creating a disperate group of people in the face of the behemoth that is the USA. That is hardly acceptable either, and is somewhat indicative of the subjective, imperialist dogmas that groups like PNAC, neocons, and many "normal" americans seem to have, and encourage to be forced on others, under the false impression that they are somehow inherently "good".

[Whaleboy]

If a culture revere's terrorism, I have no problem destroying that aspect of that culture.

The emoticon says it all. You would forcibly destroy a part of the culture that causes people to want to defend it against those they perceive would destroy it?

Again, hardly acceptable, and hardly plausible either.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by elijah
So what some of you are saying is that we shuold destroy the culture from which terrorists come? Any muslims here want to comment on that?

Nope, but like the culture of Nazi Germany it should be perminently forced to change so that they realize such behavior is immoral and must never occur again.

[Edan]

Originally posted by elijah


The emoticon says it all. You would forcibly destroy a part of the culture that causes people to want to defend it against those they perceive would destroy it?

Again, hardly acceptable, and hardly plausible either.

Cry me a river. Intentionally targeting and murdering as many civilians as you can isn't acceptable in my book - not for any culture.

[Whaleboy]

Nope, but like the culture of Nazi Germany it should be perminently forced to change so that they realize such behavior is immoral and must never occur again.

An aberration on Western culture is not comparable to an established, revered and respected religion!

[Whaleboy]

Cry me a river. Intentionally targeting and murdering as many civilians as you can isn't acceptable in my book - not for any culture.

Like all things, they do it for a reason. They are desperate people, and in such situations, desperate people resort to desperate measures. Many muslims who view themselves, and often with good reason, as oppressed, view some terrorists as freedom fighters, the same views, when reversed and applied to the other people, apply to the US admin and army.

Fundamentally, the only real difference between the two cultures, in an objective point of view, is the military strengths. When one doesnt have billion dollar warships and planes, one uses the only weapon one has, which is, oneself. Part of the reason the west hates terrorism so much is because billion dollar warships and planes are no defence against it!

[yavoon]

naziism is just as much an aboration of culture as islamic fundamentalists like the taliban etc...

u are trying to wrap the extremists in w/ the religion. and that is something I think a lot of muslims would take offense to.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by elijah
An aberration on Western culture is not comparable to an established, revered and respected religion!

A culture which promotes the killing people based upon their religion or national origin is immoral. Stop trying to tie this basic trueism to religion because the Arab world's modern fasination with homicide-bombers, martyrs, and xenopobia are not truly inharent to Islam. Instead, like the Nazi's before them, a minority has altered the general culture and trained people to believing that abjectly immoral acts are A.O.K.. Like rooting out bigotry, segrogation, or other immoral cultural norms this norm must also be rooted out.

[Kramerman]

If someone is trying to destroy me, or the society in which i live, by any means necessary, then I am more than willing to play their game - human rights be damned. Dont get me wrong, im all for human rights - that is until they start trying to ****ING kill me.

Kill or be killed. Most of you moral high horse hippies are probably pretty damn lucky that Im not in charge of this war against terror... It probably wouldnt be over ny now, but it would be at least winable if done my way