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  • #76
    Originally posted by Sirotnikov
    Oh and as for the claim that some women are doing porn since they have no choise....
    well what kind of an excuse is that?

    how does it make it any less voluntary?

    It simply gives the person another choise. She could also go clean doodoo from public bathroom floors.
    Much more degrading and less fun. (unless you're into doodoo fetish LOL)

    Would you agree to the following sentance:
    I would prefer a woman to be uneimployed than to be able to gain money for sexual acts?
    Maybe the US is peculiar in that the women who enter both the porn and prostitution business are many times seriously sick people. They need help. As I said, I would not make it illegal, but require counselling and require them to remain drug free.

    I must say that I was totally convince of the ethics on this issue after reading Clancy's book. I recommend it to all as a good read.
    http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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    • #77
      While people may claim to think that Oral Sex is degrading, polls about sexual activities preference show that being on the recieving end of oral sex is the No.1 thing for both men and women.

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      • #78
        imran, that's a good point.

        i still think it's disgusting, though, and not to my tastes.
        B♭3

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        • #79
          Look, prostitution in Israel is forbidden. Thus it is ungoverned and flourishes in criminal parts of town. Women are mistreated, traded and enslaved.

          Had we legal ways of getting sex services, sex wouldn't have become such a rare commodity and criminal trade of women would go down.

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          • #80
            I fail to see how oral sex is degrading to women, or to men for that matter.


            Many of the feminists that think porn is degrading also think oral sex is as well... look at the relative position of the man and woman when the man is recieving (especially if not lying down).
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Sirotnikov
              Look, prostitution in Israel is forbidden. Thus it is ungoverned and flourishes in criminal parts of town. Women are mistreated, traded and enslaved.

              Had we legal ways of getting sex services, sex wouldn't have become such a rare commodity and criminal trade of women would go down.
              Agreed. The sex business is best regulated to protect people who want to avoid it (most families), to protect people who use it (from diseases) and to protect people who are in it from abuse.
              http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                Many of the feminists that think porn is degrading also think oral sex is as well... look at the relative position of the man and woman when the man is recieving (especially if not lying down).
                Feminists should recieve (or give) a cunni, that would relax them
                "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                • #83
                  Feminists should recieve (or give) a cunni, that would relax them


                  Chauvinist
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #84
                    Spiffor, like that will ever happen.. we should be more realistic, like maybe they will finally start wearing bras, using deodorants, having at least minimal make up and get rid of those lose shirts, then take some anger managment courses.
                    In da butt.
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                    • #85
                      If pornography is unethical, then sex must be unethical, so having children and reproducing must be unethical. Let's be safe an institute mandatory sterilization at birth for all humans.
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #86
                        sava, im way ahead of you. lets just kill people before they can reproduce
                        "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                        'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                        • #87
                          yeah, and let's call it "liberation" so people don't get wise to what we're doing
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #88
                            let the liberation from unethicalness begin!
                            "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                            'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Sava
                              If pornography is unethical, then sex must be unethical, so having children and reproducing must be unethical. Let's be safe an institute mandatory sterilization at birth for all humans.
                              Sava, do you believe someone should allowed to play Russian roulette for an audience so long as they or their designated beneficiaries are well paid?

                              I have to ask this question of you can because you seem too completing fail to understand the damage prostitution does to women.
                              http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                              • #90
                                Ned are you basing your views from a Tom Clancy book.

                                And I can provide a link to a website where you can talk to real life prostitutes. I'd like to see their response when you call them sick.

                                I think sex in general is degrading towards women. And I feel no shame in being turned on by it. So I stand by my earlier comments that oral sex and most sexual positions are degrading towards women (esp. doggie style). But I guess that is just the way biology made up men and women with respect to their genitals and body structure.

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