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  • #1

    Just when you thought you've seen it all...

    Real conversation I just had on MSN:
    Dave: Security is a joke for most previous Windows
    Dave: It's harmful to computers on the network
    Chris: "most previous Windows"
    Dave: Even XP isn't that great
    Dave: Windows Server 2003...too early to tell
    Chris: It's been admitted that Win 95/98 weren't the best, security wise. And MS is taking steps to perfect security
    Chris: It's easy for the peanut gallery to criticize... yet I don't see anything better.
    Chris: Linux has TONS of worms, etc for it
    Dave: OpenBSD
    Dave: OpenBSD has had...1 security vul'n in the past 12 years?
    Chris: I'm not having this debate. The "MS isn't secure, Windows sucks" argument is so overplayed, i'm tired of it.
    Dave: Oh God, I can't believe smoeone said that to me
    Dave: I've got a rep for being a "MS fanboy"
    Chris: Sure aren't acting it.
    Chris: You seem to be playing in the "NOTHING MS CAN DO WILL EVER BE GOOD ENOUGH" vein.
    Dave: I'm generally unbiased and use what I like
    Chris: If I want to read drivel like that, I'll read comments on /. on a MS topic, thanks.
    There you have it -- don't judge a book by its cover.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
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  • #2
    Open Bermuda Shorts Day?

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    • #3



      btw, what do you think of the security features promised in longhorn, as covered in winsupersite (or what's its name)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Zylka
        Open Bermuda Shorts Day?
        Actually, OpenBSD is based in Calgary.

        Siro: Theoretically, the security features in Longhorn (and even Windows Server 2003) are kickass, but it all remains to be seen.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Asher

          Actually, OpenBSD is based in Calgary.
          Really? Funny... I shot my load viewing their promotional site hosting a 16 year old SA model countless times. SMALL WORLD

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          • #6
            So which one are you ?

            And why isn't this thread about the Manitoba NDP running at between 55% - 57% in the polls with an election on Tuesday ?

            And why haven't you posted here - http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...1&pagenumber=1
            There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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            • #7
              Isn't it high time for somone to ban Zylka?

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              • #8
                whats with you and microsoft? Yes I agree wit you that the whole Windows sucks arguement is waaaaaaay overplayed, but you mention this waaaay too often. More so than me finding a way to mention soul calibur in any thread.
                :-p

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Zero
                  whats with you and microsoft? Yes I agree wit you that the whole Windows sucks arguement is waaaaaaay overplayed, but you mention this waaaay too often. More so than me finding a way to mention soul calibur in any thread.
                  Oh, I'm Dave in that convo.

                  He's the one telling me to knock off being anti-MS.

                  That's what makes it such a great convo.

                  On Apolyton I'm an MS fanboy, to MS employees I'm a anti-MS zealot. I just can't win.

                  Sparky: I'm not playing the "I'm With Stupid" game because I think it's stupid.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #10
                    Given that you must be "Dave" I find this astonishing.

                    There should be a special gold-lined page on Apolyton for posts like this.
                    Only feebs vote.

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                    • #11
                      yeah I noticed
                      :-p

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Agathon
                        Given that you must be "Dave" I find this astonishing.

                        There should be a special gold-lined page on Apolyton for posts like this.
                        oh shut up
                        :-p

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                        • #13
                          If chris is one of your hired guns tell him to holster himself, so to speak, because he fools no one but everyone except me.

                          Asher, you've told me that Windows is super secure many many many times. You said it was "secur-er" (or better, or one of those saucy trolly words) so to speak than every MacOS and you at least implied it when you said MS violated no monopoly laws because of their superior product. I guess you take it all back now..?

                          Simply ridiculous AND you have fooled and confused everyone but myself. And that makes me proud.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Wiglaf
                            If chris is one of your hired guns tell him to holster himself, so to speak, because he fools no one but everyone except me.

                            Asher, you've told me that Windows is super secure many many many times. You said it was "secur-er" (or better, or one of those saucy trolly words) so to speak than every MacOS and you at least implied it when you said MS violated no monopoly laws because of their superior product. I guess you take it all back now..?

                            Simply ridiculous AND you have fooled and confused everyone but myself. And that makes me proud.
                            I haven't said any of the things you've mentioned.

                            I've said Windows isn't any less secure than Linux, which is absolutely true. In fact I believe it has a much (much) better track record than *nix did at at this point in its life.

                            I've never said, nor implied, that Windows is more secure than any MacOS in existance (OS9's security was worse than Win9x by a good deal, it just so happens no one hacked it since...well, why hack a Mac? So you can steal someone's furry porn?). But OS X may be very secure, I don't know enough about it (and I don't particularly care, either).

                            I've also never said MS never violated any Monopoly laws, I've said many times that they've done things which are VeryBad, like their OEM licensing crap they did. And I agreed they should've been taken to task for it. The rest of the case was absolute bull****, though. It had nothing to do with a "superior product", it had to do with grudge matches and jealousy against MS by competitors who wanted to (ab)use the government to crush MS so they can take its place.

                            Chris isn't one of my "hired guns", he just works at MS (WMP).

                            The person confused here is you, because you've taken the liberty of pulling **** out of your ass and making assumptions when you shouldn't.

                            What happens is people mistake me from an MS apologist here, since the majority of sentiment is anti-MS. So I'll counter the bull**** of the anti-MS people. Similarly, particularly with MS employees, they think i'm anti-MS since I counter their bull****.

                            In reality, I'm somewhere right smack dab in the middle. But people only see what they want to see, so I'm always one of the extremes to people. UR & Co call me an MS apologist, to other people I'm a BSD evangelist or generally "anti-MS".
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Wiglaf
                              If chris is one of your hired guns tell him to holster himself, so to speak, because he fools no one but everyone except me.

                              Asher, you've told me that Windows is super secure many many many times. You said it was "secur-er" (or better, or one of those saucy trolly words) so to speak than every MacOS and you at least implied it when you said MS violated no monopoly laws because of their superior product. I guess you take it all back now..?

                              Simply ridiculous AND you have fooled and confused everyone but myself. And that makes me proud.
                              Wiggy sighting recorded.

                              Why come back wiggy piggy? Tired of jerking off all the time?
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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