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    Language police bar 'old,' 'blind'

    LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) --Oh heck: Hell hath no place in American primary and high school textbooks.

    But then again you can't find anyone riding on a yacht or playing polo in the pages of an American textbook either. The texts also can't say someone has a boyish figure, or is a busboy, or is blind, or suffers a birth defect, or is a biddy, or the best man for the job, a babe, a bookworm, or even a barbarian.

    All these words are banned from U.S. textbooks on the grounds that they either elitist (polo, yacht) sexist (babe, boyish figure), offensive (blind, bookworm) ageist (biddy) or just too strong (hell which is replaced with darn or heck). God is also a banned word in the textbooks because he or she is too religious.

    To get the full 500-word list of what is banned and why, consult "The Language Police," a new book by New York University professor of education Dianne Ravitch, a former education official in President George H.W. Bush's administration and a consultant to the Clinton administration.

    She says she stumbled on her discovery of what's allowed and not allowed by accident because publishers insist that they do not impose censorship on their history and English textbook authors but merely apply rules of sensitivity -- which have expanded mightily since first introduced in the 1970s to weed out gender and racial bias.

    Ravitch's book is taking people by surprise the same way that Rachel Carson's "Silent Spring" did in the 1960s in exposing the effects of pesticides.

    'The Older Person and the Water'
    She says a lot of people are having fun finding new titles for Ernest Hemingway's "The Old Man and the Sea" which presents problems with every word except "and" and "the." Ravitch said old is ageist, man is sexist and sea can't be used in case a student lives inland and doesn't grasp the concept of a large body of water.

    But some people say the phenomenon of sanitizing words and thought is not isolated to textbook publishers seeking not to offend anyone so that sales can be as wide as possible.

    The New York Times recently reported that National Institute of Health researchers on AIDS are not only avoiding using words like gay and homosexuals in e-mails so as not to offend conservatives in the Bush administration, they are also inventing code words.

    Times journalist Erica Goode reported that one researcher was told to "cleanse" the abstract of his grant proposal of words like gay, homosexual and transgender even though his research was on HIV in gay men.

    Nor is the government the only source of constraint or censorship in the watch-what-you-say business. Wal-Mart, the nation's largest retailer, recently banned racy men's magazines from its shelves although it continues to sell sexy underwear.

    According to Ravitch both the right wing and the left wing get what they want in American textbooks, for example an emphasis on family values and equality among ethnic groups.

    "Everyone gets their pet causes incorporated in textbooks. The history texts are reluctant to criticize any dictator unless they are long dead. And even then, there are exceptions like Mao is praised in one text for modernizing China but his totalitarian rule is not mentioned," she said.

    She was also unhappy to see photos in one text of Saudi women working as doctors and nurses because that implied that they had gender equality.

    "You also can't say Mother Russia or Fatherland or brotherhood in texts and that's both silly, trivial and breathtaking. It is like George Orwell's 'Newspeak' come to life," she said in an interview, referring to the manipulation of language in "1984."

    Ravitch said that textbook publishing is controlled by four main publishers and they aim to sell texts state by state, thus forcing them to dumb down the books and make the language as inoffensive as possible. "They don't want controversy and they don't want people screaming," she said.

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    I'm sorry. But this is the stupidest f*cking thing I've read about today. I know we had another thread not too long ago, this is an update. One of the biggest problems in this society is the revisionist style history that people will learn. History should be offensive. There have been some really nasty, offensive, evil things that have happened. By "dumbing it down" you are doing a great injustice to children by teaching them lies.
    To us, it is the BEAST.

  • #2
    This is why any of my potential future spawn shall go to private school.
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    • #3
      Does anyone actually read textbooks anymore?

      She was also unhappy to see photos in one text of Saudi women working as doctors and nurses because that implied that they had gender equality.
      Irony being that this is precisely the reason that this kind of thing happens.
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      • #4
        How about all of these "activists" (losers would be a better name for them) just shut the hell up?
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        • #5
          ....man, your country is wacked yo.
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          • #6
            This is almost NEVER enforced. However, to my particular amusement, a friend of mine (who goes to a different high school) found out that the Shakespeare in his English textbook was CENSORED they had taken all of the sex jokes out (which is 90% of Shakespeare ) and RENUMBERED THE LINES, so he found out by accident (a question in a study guide about a line that WASN'T THERE). Come on! If you're going to take the sex jokes out of Shakespeare, you might as well not read it

            What we found REALLY funny, though, was that the book was published in 1984

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            • #7
              Only in America.
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              • #8
                I think that any historic text or literature piece should be published in theit first version. This way, Shakespeare and his sexual jokes all the way, witnesses of slavery who talk about negroes all the way, "The Old Man and the Sea" all the way etc.

                While I find PC generally ludicrous, I don't think it is extremely bad in the comments (it is only very bad ). But slashing the original texts is unforgivable
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                • #9


                  "OLDER PERSON AND THE WATER"
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                  • #10
                    Ravitch said old is ageist, man is sexist and sea can't be used in case a student lives inland and doesn't grasp the concept of a large body of water.


                    thats wonderful.

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                    • #11
                      The New York Times recently reported that National Institute of Health researchers on AIDS are not only avoiding using words like gay and homosexuals in e-mails so as not to offend conservatives in the Bush administration, they are also inventing code words.

                      Times journalist Erica Goode reported that one researcher was told to "cleanse" the abstract of his grant proposal of words like gay, homosexual and transgender even though his research was on HIV in gay men.


                      you gave no idea how much this is killing mw. I can barely type

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                      • #12
                        I demand a direct link to this article so I can e-mail it to people!!


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by skywalker
                          This is almost NEVER enforced. However, to my particular amusement, a friend of mine (who goes to a different high school) found out that the Shakespeare in his English textbook was CENSORED they had taken all of the sex jokes out (which is 90% of Shakespeare ) and RENUMBERED THE LINES, so he found out by accident (a question in a study guide about a line that WASN'T THERE). Come on! If you're going to take the sex jokes out of Shakespeare, you might as well not read it
                          Most people don't even get them at first read anyway
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                          • #14
                            Shakespeare has always sucked. Shakespeares sucks. Shakespeare will always suck.

                            I demand that Chaucer be taught with its full range of good Anglo-Saxon words for genitalia!
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                            • #15
                              I always found the difficulty of discussing Twain in a freshman English class amusing...
                              "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
                              "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
                              "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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