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Originally posted by Albert Speer
Kidicious:
Ever heard the term slippery slope? or some are more equal than others?
Kidicious:
Ever heard the term slippery slope? or some are more equal than others?
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I'm a bit of a realist. I think there is more danger of Nazis than of all of us losing our freedom of speech.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Damn Hitler loving AmericansOriginally posted by Agathon
Let me ask the Hitler-lovers (
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I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Agathon:
First of all... those views are not getting mass appeal anytime soon... they are brutally mocked...
secondly, there's another important thing called majoritarianism... if the KKK was wildly popular (which it would never be) then they do have the right to influence policies as officeholders... hopefully, there'd be enough people of other persuasions to counter-act the pro-KKK majority..."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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Originally posted by Agathon
Now there's someone with his head screwed on the right way.
Let me ask the Hitler-lovers () this: If the Nazi Party, given what you know about them and their political program, became popular in the country you lived in and began to establish themselves as a political power by legitimate means, what would you do?
Would you leave them be and wait until they gained power and then attempted to overturn all the civil rights you wanted to protect, or would you suppress them, which would be bad for them, but good for all the people who would avoid the evil things they planned on doing?
Presumably, this dilemma once confronted the German authorities. I think they made the wrong choice, don't you?
Nice post. I disagree with you, but good.
"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005Comment
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Kidicious:
how the hell is the KKK a threat to America in 2003?"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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I don't want to wait for the tide to turn the way it did in Germany. They were small and laughed at there to until they used very dubious means to gain power.Originally posted by Albert Speer
Agathon:
First of all... those views are not getting mass appeal anytime soon... they are brutally mocked...I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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They are always a threat. We are always at war with the fascists and the racists.Originally posted by Albert Speer
Kidicious:
how the hell is the KKK a threat to America in 2003?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Originally posted by Albert Speer
Someone has the right to express views... also, i am convinced these views only get trashed and ridiculed by staying public so it makes more sense to keep them legal...
Oddly enough, I was about to make this argument to Ming about a thread of mine that was deleted. (you know the one I'm talking about, you posted in it, but I don't dare speak its name because the mods are after me
) I think its better to invite people to have their obnoxious views blown apart then to try to stop them from speaking.
"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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Kidicious:
and we are always at war with the filthy rich liberal bourgious slaver class like you...We are always at war with the fascists"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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a slaver class i should add that has legalized a genocide that has taken the lives of over 10 million black babies..."Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben KenobiComment
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Don't take it personal Albert. It's just that the Left must keep our vigilance. They aim to kill us all, so we must be ready.Originally posted by Albert Speer
Kidicious:
and we are always at war with the filthy rich liberal bourgious slaver class like you...I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
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I would wait. IF they have the support of the majority of the citizens, then they deserve to be in power! I personally would vote against them (duh) but I can't say they don't have the right to hold their views just because I don't like them! It creates a paradox; why can't they just say, well, we're in the minority, but we don't like your views, so you shouldn't be in power?! EACH VIEWPOINT IS SUBJECTIVE, AND THUS EQUALLY VALID.Originally posted by Agathon
Now there's someone with his head screwed on the right way.
Let me ask the Hitler-lovers () this: If the Nazi Party, given what you know about them and their political program, became popular in the country you lived in and began to establish themselves as a political power by legitimate means, what would you do?
Would you leave them be and wait until they gained power and then attempted to overturn all the civil rights you wanted to protect, or would you suppress them, which would be bad for them, but good for all the people who would avoid the evil things they planned on doing?
Presumably, this dilemma once confronted the German authorities. I think they made the wrong choice, don't you?
You shouldn't be arguing for them to be banned, you should be arguing against them in order to convince others they are wrong! (obviously, this isn't necessary now, but you get the point)
Well, if they are using "dubious" (by which I assume you mean illegal) means to get into power, then we arrest them, because they are breaking the law.Originally posted by Kidicious
I don't want to wait for the tide to turn the way it did in Germany. They were small and laughed at there to until they used very dubious means to gain power.Comment
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Been there done that. Strangely enough suppressing individual rights hasn't been necessary to keep the KKK from reaching thier former heights of power.Originally posted by Agathon
Let me ask the Hitler-lovers () this: If the Nazi Party, given what you know about them and their political program, became popular in the country you lived in and began to establish themselves as a political power by legitimate means, what would you do?
Yes, I do.Presumably, this dilemma once confronted the German authorities. I think they made the wrong choice, don't you?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this thread isn't about your crackpot abortion theories.Originally posted by Albert Speer
a slaver class i should add that has legalized a genocide that has taken the lives of over 10 million black babies...
Lime roots and treachery!
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Unfortunately people break the law and get away with it.Originally posted by skywalker
Well, if they are using "dubious" (by which I assume you mean illegal) means to get into power, then we arrest them, because they are breaking the law.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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