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    'Under the sanctions regime, "We had the ability to get all the drugs we needed," said Ibn Al-Baladi's chief resident, Dr. Hussein Shihab. "Instead of that, Saddam Hussein spent all the money on his military force and put all the fault on the USA. Yes, of course the sanctions hurt - but not too much, because we are a rich country and we have the ability to get everything we can by money. But instead, he spent it on his palaces."

    The U.S. government and others long have blamed Hussein's spending habits for the poor health of Iraqis and their children. For years, the Iraqi government, some Western officials and a vocal anti-sanctions movement said UN restrictions on Iraqi imports and exports were at fault.

    "Saddam Hussein, he's the murderer, not the UN," said Dr. Azhar Abdul Khadem, a resident at the Al-Alwiya maternity hospital in Baghdad.


    Doctors said they were forced to refrigerate dead babies in hospital morgues until authorities were ready to gather the little corpses for monthly parades in coffins on the roofs of taxis for the benefit of Iraqi state television and visiting journalists. The parents were ordered to wail with grief - no matter how many weeks had passed since their babies had died - and to shout to the cameras that the sanctions had killed their children, the doctors said. Afterward, the parents would be rewarded with food or money.

    The propaganda campaign was organized by the ministries of health and information and by the Iraqi Intelligence Service, the mukhabarat, according to the doctors and a former agent in another of Iraq's security agencies, the General Security Service.'


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  • #2
    It's nice to hear that somebody knows where to place the majority of the blame. Unfortunately, however, the "average Iraqi" isn't a doctor - educated, familiar with how the sanctions worked - and therefore probably believes that all the suffering was the fault of the US.

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    • #3
      After the food for oil program came into line in 96, all the international agencies came in with much lower numbers of infant deaths, malnutrition, so forth and so on.

      Yes, of course the sanctions hurt - but not too much, because we are a rich country and we have the ability to get everything we can by money.


      Strange phrase there. Rich country? And before "Food for Oil", wouldn't that be called smuugling?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by GePap
        After the food for oil program came into line in 96, all the international agencies came in with much lower numbers of infant deaths, malnutrition, so forth and so on.

        Yes, of course the sanctions hurt - but not too much, because we are a rich country and we have the ability to get everything we can by money.


        Strange phrase there. Rich country? And before "Food for Oil", wouldn't that be called smuugling?

        '"I am one of the doctors who was forced to tell something wrong - that these children died from the fault of the UN," Shihab said, sitting in his hospital's staff room with his deputy, another doctor and one of the hospital's administrators. As recently as just before the start of the war, he said, he had told visiting journalists and peace activists that the sanctions were to blame for the high death rate among infants at his hospital.'


        AS RECENTLY AS JUST BEFORE THE START OF THE WAR - the propaganda campaign continued for the entire 13 years of sanctions, well after oil for food program started.
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        • #5
          Think of the children! Won't someone please think of the children!
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          • #6
            But no one believed it since the late 90's, since things were visibly better due to Food for oil.

            Last i will say about this article.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by GePap
              But no one believed it since the late 90's, since things were visibly better due to Food for oil.

              Last i will say about this article.

              it was prominently mentioned in Bin ladens statement agains the "jews and crusaders" Apparently it was widely believed in the muslim world. Its one of the reasons "they hate us" I daresay i've heard american leftists repeat it many times since the mid-90's. Too bad they werent as informed as you. The propaganda worked anyway.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by GePap
                Yes, of course the sanctions hurt - but not too much, because we are a rich country and we have the ability to get everything we can by money.


                Strange phrase there. Rich country? And before "Food for Oil", wouldn't that be called smuugling?
                If you're sitting on the second biggest oil reserves in the world, and can make deals to get that oil out off the books, you sure ain't a poor country.

                "Smuggling" In the middle east? In Iraq? They probably invented the concept.
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                • #9
                  I guess some posters were not paying attention a month or so ago when the USA shut down the two pipelines sending "smuggled" (bypassing the UN oil for food rules) to Syria.
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                  • #10
                    They had a feature on NBC news tonight about the torture chambers in Iraq. Thank God that the mad-man of Iraq is out of power now. I would not wish that torture or suffering on anyone but I really would not mind too much if some of the anti US crowd were hung up by both hands that were tied behind their backs for about 5 minutes. Maybe their sympathy would be properly directed if they experienced one molecule of the suffering aleviated by the liberation.

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                    • #11
                      This should be bumped, it needs to be known.
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                      • #12
                        It might help if it had a less ambiguous title -- I ignored it at first, thinking it was another "Americans are responsible for the deaths of a billion Iraqi children" rant.

                        Then again, maybe the ambiguity is a benefit. :shrugs:
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                        • #13
                          Re: iraqi doctors speak out on deaths of childern during period of sanctions

                          Originally posted by lord of the mark
                          'Under the sanctions regime, "We had the ability to get all the drugs we needed," said Ibn Al-Baladi's chief resident, Dr. Hussein Shihab. "Instead of that, Saddam Hussein spent all the money on his military force and put all the fault on the USA. Yes, of course the sanctions hurt - but not too much, because we are a rich country and we have the ability to get everything we can by money. But instead, he spent it on his palaces."
                          The question is, how would he know? Being a lowly doctor, he certainly couldn't have access to such secret information.
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                          • #14
                            Maybe it had something to do with all the palaces Saddam was building all the time.
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                            • #15
                              It seems like most of his palaces were built before GWI.
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