Judaism's GREATEST misconception......

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Vesayen
You mean inheritance by birth?

Its not exclusive..... if others want to become his PR agents, they can join(Judaism always welcomes converts-but dosent activley go to recuirt them) and will be more then welcome(My aunt, whom I love and is devout, is a convert).

Yes, but why should it be inherited in the first place, as opposed to, say, acting like a monastic order, or a charitable organisation? What is it about being "God's PR men" that requires an inheritence component at all?

The idea that being God's PR men is inherited also gives tacit support to other notions of birthright, such as monarchy and aristocracy. "They're God's PR men, as decided by birth, and I'm God's leader, as decided by birth."

[Edan]

Re: Re: Re: Judaism's GREATEST misconception......

[(Judaism always welcomes converts-but dosent activley go to recuirt them)

Well, it welcomes them, but Jewish religious officials try to dissuaded not to convert to Judaism (in order to ensure that those who do convert are serious about it, and that there's no necessity for a non-Jew to convert to Judaism to recieve some reward, like the afterlife.).

[Vesayen]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Judaism's GREATEST misconception......

"Yes, but why should it be inherited in the first place, as opposed to, say, acting like a monastic order, or a charitable organisation? What is it about being "God's PR men" that requires an inheritence component at all?"

You said inherit-I didnt..... We dont "inherit" some divine mandate every generation, it is just taught to the children.

You say inherit, thus giving the conotation that it is something physical, and something you would want-while it has no tangible "value", and isnt something most people do want. Do you want to be restricted from eating 90% of the world's food, or laying low for a day and a half a week, for the rest of your life?





"The idea that being God's PR men is inherited also gives tacit "support to other notions of birthright, such as monarchy and aristocracy. "They're God's PR men, as decided by birth, and I'm God's leader, as decided by birth."

So because it is "inherited" it is something bad-but you said inherit, thus giving it a bad conotation..... not I. It isnt inheritance, parents teach it to their children and hope the children embrace it.

Originally posted by Edan


Well, it welcomes them, but Jewish religious officials try to dissuaded not to convert to Judaism (in order to ensure that those who do convert are serious about it, and that there's no necessity for a non-Jew to convert to Judaism to recieve some reward, like the afterlife.).

I think we have the vaguest details of the afterlife of any religion in the world, and it isnt exsclusive for just us, so that would indead be a poor reason LOL!

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Sandman
Why on earth should 'God's PR men' be decided via inheritence?

Really, God chose Abraham to be his PR man, because Abraham was supposed to be a very good person or something. And then, well... Abraham had a kid. And his kid had kids. And so on until present day. So now you've got a lot of PR men.

[Az]

What is it about being "God's PR men" that requires an inheritence component at all?

That's god's decision! You dare question him?!

*Throws a lightning orb at Sandman*

[Capt Dizle]

I always assumed that after generations of struggle to separate Gentiles from their money, that Jewish thought on intermarriage was simply "why should we bring them into the family and share?"

[Vesayen]

Originally posted by jimmytrick
I always assumed that after generations of struggle to separate Gentiles from their money, that Jewish thought on intermarriage was simply "why should we bring them into the family and share?"

I would ask everyone else to ignore this racist troll, and not comment on his post.

[Sava]

@ this thread

[Eli]

Excellent disinformation, agent Vesayen. When the time comes, they wont know what hit them.

Did I say that out loud?

[Vesayen]

Originally posted by Eli
Excellent disinformation, agent Vesayen. When the time comes, they wont know what hit them.

Did I say that out loud?

Will you be at the secret meeting today at midnight under the New York Stock exchange?

oops.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by jimmytrick
I always assumed that after generations of struggle to separate Gentiles from their money, that Jewish thought on intermarriage was simply "why should we bring them into the family and share?"

I really hope this is meant in sarcasm or a joke, because if it isn't, you're not just a moron, you're a superdupermoron.

[lord of the mark]

i would only point out that vesayens views, while generally consistent with Judaism, represent only one view. In addition to the well-known modern movement (orthodox, conservative and reform) there have been disagreements on many matters throughout jewish history - just as one example, there are certainly many Jews who do believe in afterlife.


However its great that you post your point of view - let a thousand flowers bloom

[Az]

I am an atheist jew.



I am a commie, but that's only because I want to take the money of honest working white people.

[Sava]

I am an atheist jew.

[Vesayen]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
i would only point out that vesayens views, while generally consistent with Judaism, represent only one view. In addition to the well-known modern movement (orthodox, conservative and reform) there have been disagreements on many matters throughout jewish history - just as one example, there are certainly many Jews who do believe in afterlife.


However its great that you post your point of view - let a thousand flowers bloom

Oh heh thanks heh.

Just curious, where do you draw your information from the afterlife?

The Torah has less then a handfull of passing references, and everything in the Talmud could be entirley false-since it was written by man(not saying its all false, but how do we know?)