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Never mind on the ACLU about the St.Louis event, however, at www.aclu.org there is a front page article about spying on California activists.
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Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree... -
I don't know about indymedia. Democracy Now isn't a source of left wing propaganda. It's just a non-mainstream news source. So you hear some things there that you don't hear mainstream.Originally posted by lord of the mark
a "liberal" news source - in the same sense that indymedia is a "liberal" news source?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Follow your own advice please.Originally posted by Sava
Sorry... I won't be quiet. I will continue to object to your insults and stereotypes until you have proper information/experience to base them on.
I know more about Americans than I do Argentinians. Why bring them up in this?I don't proclaim to be perfect. But at least my opinions and my ignorant stereotypes are based upon experience. Your stereotypes about Americans are as accurate as my stereotypes about Argentinians...
Experience? I lived in the US for much of my life.. so I think I can be well equipped when saying something.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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This is America... the Constitution grants people civil rights... perhaps in your jingoistic corner of Texas, civil rights don't exist...Originally posted by SlowwHand
This is like if someone gets bit by a dog, it's their fault for sticking their leg in the dog's mouth.To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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Fez: then answer my question... how many Americans do you know? How many "liberal" Americans do you know?To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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Re: Re: Police attacking the left across Midwest
They owned the building. See the part where it says they bought the building from the city last year?Originally posted by Ned
I'm sorry, Che, but the article seem to suggest the commies were trespassing. The police brought a building inspector with them, who condemned the building, so the police could enter without a warrent, arrest the activists, and confiscate their belongings. The police seized, among other things, 55 bikes. The activists have recovered some of the bikes, all of which tires have been slashed.
Listen here.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Well about a hundred or so in my school.. well not all but I know a few of them as friends.. I also know many officials at the American Embassy here. A few are liberals... my english teacher from New Hampshire is.Originally posted by Sava
Fez: then answer my question... how many Americans do you know? How many "liberal" Americans do you know?
Also you might want to know my sister is a socialist.
And I get along with her well...
It is just you who I have a problem with here.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Re: Re: Re: Police attacking the left across Midwest
OK, did they arrest the commies because they were violating a condemnation order - a form of trespassing?Originally posted by chegitz guevara
They owned the building. See the part where it says they bought the building from the city last year? The police brought a building inspector with them, who condemned the building, so the police could enter without a warrent, arrest the activists, and confiscate their belongings. The police seized, among other things, 55 bikes. The activists have recovered some of the bikes, all of which tires have been slashed.
Listen here.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=enComment
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st louis dispatch, edited for length
St. Louis police search a home Friday in the 3000 block of Cherokee Street. Police say the raid was to enforce housing laws, but activists who were staying there said it was to clamp down on protests at the World Agricultural Forum here this weekend.
It was good fortune, St. Louis police said, when raids Friday to enforce housing laws yielded "weapons" like rocks and nails from homes of some people planning to protest the World Agricultural Forum here this weekend.
But the activists said it was just an excuse to get in and snoop.
More than a dozen people were arrested - none on weapons violations - and most remained in jail into Friday night.
"This is political repression. We're being targeted," said Molly Dupre, glassy-eyed as she emerged on bail from police headquarters after about seven hours in custody on a charge of occupying a condemned building.
DuPre, 23, of St. Charles, described herself as an anarchist and six weeks pregnant.
Joe Mokwa, chief of a police department clearly edgy about what the coming days will bring, told reporters, "We are very concerned. We can certainly draw conclusions and expectations after we found these items."
Some of those things - a bag of rocks and a bucket of nails - seem fairly common to a home under rehabilitation, as some of those raided were. But they appeared more sinister when paired on a display table with a sling shot, whips and torches.
Similar devices were used as weapons in large-scale demonstrations at international conferences in Seattle and Washington, D.C., officials said.
These were seized from a condemned building at 3309 Illinois Avenue and a building at 3022 Cherokee Street. Mokwa said no weapons charges were filed because nothing could be linked to specific people.
Police said neighbors' complaints spurred the raids; names of those complaining were not revealed. The building on Illinois had been condemned.
"The timing is coincidental because these people just got here," Mokwa said. "We have an obligation to investigate complaints. We are not going to allow people to reside in abandoned buildings."
Activists said police circled the buildings for days, questioning anyone on foot or bicycle.
"It's definitely systematic harassment of protesters," said Art Friedrich, who lives at 3022 Cherokee.
Fifteen people arrested at the home on Illinois were cited for a city ordinance violation of occupying a condemned building, Mokwa said. It had no occupancy permit, according to building inspectors.
Some of those staying there insisted it was not condemned. Three people, who bought it from the city for $800, have been staying there for a year, they said.
LOTM - lets see, they had no occupany permit. they did , however, have rocks, nail, slingshots, whips, and torches. the very kinds of things that have been used as weapons at "protests" in Seattle and Washington.
McCarthyism my foot.
And of course it was covered in the mainstream media. It was covered, as it should have been, in the St Louis Post Dispatch. It was NOT picked up by the national media - as there was no reason to - there was no mccarthyism. Just law enforcement.
And we're supposed to get upset.
based on that, im not going to bother looking up the other 2."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Indymedia is an anarchist media source. My big problem with Indymedia is they have had a history of not doing their fact checking.Originally posted by Kidicious
I don't know about indymedia. Democracy Now isn't a source of left wing propaganda. It's just a non-mainstream news source. So you hear some things there that you don't hear mainstream.
DemocracyNow! is a left-wing news source. I'm not terribly happy with them either, as the host has a habit of soft-peddling leftist guests while hard-balling right-wing guests. Now, there are certainly many right-wing hosts whodo the same thing, but I expect better from my side. It is a good source of news that the mainstream refuses to cover, however.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Yeah, weapons out the kazoo.
Maybe it IS like Texas, Sava.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ BraindeadComment
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Police attacking the left across Midwest
If the police showed up at your house with a building inspector, who declared your home condemned so the police could enter right then and there, would you be a tresspasser?Originally posted by Ned
OK, did they arrest the commies because they were violating a condemnation order - a form of trespassing?
LotM, you don't need a permit to occupy your own building.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Too lazy to look for yourself, but not too lazy to insult people you don't know while adding nothing to a debate. Hmm.Originally posted by Fez
Well Chegitz, 1) I am lazy and 2) I didn't start this thread.
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"We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La RochefoucauldComment
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This is Giancarlo you are talking to who here...Originally posted by Lorizael
Too lazy to look for yourself, but not too lazy to insult people you don't know while adding nothing to a debate. Hmm.
You know how I am.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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BS!Originally posted by lord of the mark
Similar devices were used as weapons in large-scale demonstrations at international conferences in Seattle and Washington, D.C., officials said.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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