Police attacking the left across Midwest

[oedo]

C'mon Sava, why would one group of people have a freedom to assemble on public property (btw, the 1st Amendment doesn't even mention where this freedom of assembly exists) but not others who are using public property to reach other assemblies? If I want to go to the park to visit with friends - freedom of assembly - why do protestors have a greater right to block me?

an assembly necessarily disturbs the right of others, who just want to pass the location where the assembly takes place. so your logic can lead to the conclusion, that there is absolutely no freedom to assemble.
a working democracy, however, is also dependent on the freedom of assemble. your right to pass the location collides with the right of the protestors in that case. that´s why one need a balance between these rights. anything else would completely undermine the constitutional freedom.
in other words: sometimes you just have to take another way - in the name of your precious democracy.

[SlowwHand]

No. Permits are required.
Doubtful they were authorized to trample worker's rights.

[Ned]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


By putting them in jail so they couldn't attend the protest. Also, their puppets were confiscated, which means they were prevented from engaging in a form or political satire. And please, while I know you want to deride them as commie, they're anarchists, not commies.

Why are you sticking up for a bunch of anarchists?

[Ramo]

Attacking the left through screwing with housing is a well-refined tactic of the police. It goes back to the persecution of radicals in the 19th century. It's not a big suprise that the police continues to do so.

You know folks, the right to organize isn't absolute. But that doesn't mean the state can prohibit demonstrations arbitrarily. That's kind of what the right to organize actually means.

[oedo]

Slowwhand; you really need a permit for an assembly in America? even for assemblies in closed rooms?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by oedo
Slowwhand; you really need a permit for an assembly in America?

Yes.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Ned


Why are you sticking up for a bunch of anarchists?

Some people care about the civil rights of everyone, not just the people that happen to agree with their politics.

[Ramo]

[Ned]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


as far as i can tell the building was in violation, and the law required them to cease residence as soon as it was condemned.

If i drive down the highway at 56 MPH in a 55 zone,with a bumper sticker that says "screw the cops" can i make a first amendment case that most people dont get stopped at 56MPH????

I think you could make out a civil rights violation if you could demonstrate that a "class" was singled out for enforcement. I am not sure about an isolated incident. Except here there should have been some reasonable notice and time to vacate without police action. I think the owners should have had some time to appeal the condemnation ruling, for example.

This almost sounds like the fair trial Jesus got. Arrested at 12am. Tried at 3am. Scourged at 9am. Crucified at 12pm. Died at 3pm.

Fair trial, my foot.

[oedo]

you really need a permit for an assembly in America?
Yes.

wow. interesting. we don´t need such a thing. it can happen that we have to respect certain conditions for an assembly, but generally everybody can assemble, whenever he likes.

[Ned]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Yes.

I can see where you might need a permit if you are going to block a major road, but if there was no place to protest without a permit or if a permit cost a lot of $, the permit procedure might be overbroad and unduly burdensome.

is there any case authority on point?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by oedo
it can happen that we have to respect certain conditions for an assembly,

That's how it works.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Ned
is there any case authority on point?

Thomas v Chicago Park District is the most recent case on point.

[Dinner]

I was listening to Pacifica (a far left radio network) while they were screaming their heads off about this but upon hearing the entire article I can only say these guys have no clue what so ever. I mean you should have heard these nut balls raving. There spokeswoman sounded like she should have stopped smoking the pipe about a hour before the interview.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Ramo
Attacking the left through screwing with housing is a well-refined tactic of the police. It goes back to the persecution of radicals in the 19th century. It's not a big suprise that the police continues to do so.

You know folks, the right to organize isn't absolute. But that doesn't mean the state can prohibit demonstrations arbitrarily. That's kind of what the right to organize actually means.

Ramo, they were squating in a condemned house. You may not know this but that is a crime. Also the neighbor who accussed the cops of planting evidience has since stopped talking and told reporters for NPR that he didn't see anything.

Something smells fishy with this story and it's not the cops.