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    Any self-respecting Euro knows, or at least strongly suspects, that Americans are a bunch of venal hicks who would happily carve up their mothers with a rusty knife and sell the pieces on the open market in order to increase their income. And now, just in time to confirm those deep-seated suspicions, comes “Dogville”, a new film written and directed by Danish filmmaker Lars von Trier.

    According to the Washington Post:
    "Dogville" is set in a fictional town in the Rockies. Kidman plays Grace, a desperate stranger who asks Dogville's residents (played by Lauren Bacall, Paul Bettany, Stellan Skarsgard, Chloe Sevigny and others) to hide her from ruthless gangsters. Initially portrayed as homespun and considerate folk, the people of Dogville turn out to be morally despicable individuals who are variously treacherous, fear-driven and even rapacious. … In the movie's biblical scheme of things, they get their just deserts.
    European critics and movie goers alike have been beating down the doors in order to see this film, which is the odds-on favorite to win the prestigious Golden Palm award at the Cannes Film Festival. Von Trier is somewhat of a film wunderkind, and has done well at Cannes in the past. Moreover, he is uniquely qualified to make this “harsh indictment of small-town America”. According to the New York Times:

    Raised by his radical, nudist Communist parents in an unconventional environment where, as von Trier once put it, everything was permitted except "feelings, religion and enjoyment," von Trier blossomed into a neurotic, left-wing, movie-loving youth. Given a Super-8 camera at age 11, von Trier spent his teens making movies and entered Copenhagen's film school in the early '80s. After winning prizes at the Munich Film Festival in 1981 and 1982 for his student films, and adding the aristocratic "von" to his name …
    But by far the most impressive qualification is that von Trier has never been to the US. Interviewed in the Washington Post, von Trier said:

    "The story could have taken place all around the world, but somehow the whole style of it was American. I've been reading Steinbeck. And so I asked myself how it would be" to set a film in the United States.
    "Actually, I feel like an American. Ich bin ein American," he said, echoing John F. Kennedy's pro-Berlin comment of the 1960s. "I would love to start a 'free America campaign,' because we've just had a 'free Iraq campaign.' That's how I feel. . . . I am sure it's a beautiful country. I would love to go there [but] I'm afraid of going there. Maybe this is all because of wrong communication [from European media], I don't know. I think it could be a wonderful place, but I'm not able to go to America right now because I don't think America is how it should be."
    Lest anyone think that “von” Trier represents a stunningly unique monument to the vagaries of the artistic temperament, we also have Iranian director Samira Makhmalbaf, whose feminist "Panj e Asr" ("At Five in the Afternoon") is also in the Cannes competition. Last week Makhmalbaf accused President Bush of being “an American version of the Taliban.” So far as I can tell Makhmalbaf has never been to America either.

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    Last edited by Adam Smith; May 20, 2003, 18:21.
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    Any self-respecting Euro knows, or at least strongly suspects, that Americans are a bunch of venal hicks who would happily carve up their mothers with a rusty knife and sell the pieces on the open market in order to increase their income.
    What? Knives? No self-respecting stereotype American would use a knife. A gun, and preferably three of them at a same time. Also, he's be simultaneously chanting from the Bible, chowing down a Big Mac, and cheering on Fox News which tell about how the godlike President Bush is filing a lawsuit against the French for not bowing towards America thrice-a-day. And he'd (both the stereotypical American and Bush) would be doing all this with a big fake glistening Yankee smile.

    Sheesh. On the stereotype market, that's just not cutting it.
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    • #3
      "von" Trier is a state-of-the-art, selfabsorbed nutcase who doesn't know anything other than how to promote himself and his neurosis.

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      • #4
        Von Trier is a tiresome, ironic-generation jokester who can't make artistic statements of any depth and who ushered in the despicable and destructive incompetents' paradise that was the Dogme 95 movement.

        See? We all dislike him but for different reasons.
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        • #5
          Whats with that iranian radical? yes... her country sure is a lot more tolerant than that evil President Bush...
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          • #6
            I intend to see Dogvill because I love Nicle Kidman and because I enjoyed Festen veeeeery much. Von Trier often depicts despicable poepl, and in Festen those people wer absloutley European. I couldn't care less about the location of the movie.
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            • #7
              You can't fault the man for not coming to America... We have plenty of people who don't want to go to France or Germany for example...
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              • #8
                Much as I think the Dogma 95 manifesto is a joke, I will say:

                1) von Trier is a great director; Europa (a/k/a Zentropa), Breaking the Waves, and The Kingdom are among the very best things I saw in the 90s. This film might suck, but every director I love has made at least one film that sucked, and generally more.

                2) Surely no one is more guilty of making films about places they've never been that the American Film Industry, collectively considered.

                3) Artists all over the world (including in the US) hate Bush and Bush's version of America. Wherever artists gather -- whether at Cannes or at the Northern Illinois University Senior Mixed-Media Sculpture Exhibition -- you'll find these sentiments. It's like homophobia at a Southern Baptist convention -- except the artists are onto something.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by monolith94
                  You can't fault the man for not coming to America...
                  Why not? If you're going to set a film in an actual location, wouldn't you think it would be wise to at least get a feel for the place?
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                  • #10
                    hmmmm...
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Stefu


                      Fox News which tell about how the godlike President Bush is filing a lawsuit against the French for not bowing towards America thrice-a-day.
                      Wrong! Bush would never file a lawsuit - he hates lawyers and litigation (probably because he coudn't get into UT Law School). He'll just liberate Paris, bring "regime change", and force French wineries to use bio-engineered grapes and nasty chemical preservatives.

                      I'll be sure to loot the Louvre when the liberation begins. I want that painting of the woman with no eyebrows.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DinoDoc
                        Why not? If you're going to set a film in an actual location, wouldn't you think it would be wise to at least get a feel for the place?
                        It is quite clear that when american film directors depict England they have never been
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                        • #13
                          Wrong! Bush would never file a lawsuit - he hates lawyers and litigation (probably because he coudn't get into UT Law School). He'll just liberate Paris, bring "regime change", and force French wineries to use bio-engineered grapes and nasty chemical preservatives.
                          NoNOnoNOnoNOno! We're talking about American stereotypes here, and lawsuit-happiness is an integral part of the American stereotype! You might as well have a German-stereotype not spitting in your face while speaking or a French-stereotype not eating frog legs!
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                          • #14
                            Spiffor, "Festen" is directed by Thomas Vinterberg and not Lars von Trier. You confuse the two because they're both part of the Danish film wave and the first two who made Dogme 95 films. Festen" was great, though. Nobody thought a movie about incest would ever achieve that degree of public approval.

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                            • #15
                              Actually, if I'm going to see another von Trier movie it'll probably be this one. I like the "chalk outline" idea.
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