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  • #31
    Fez: You are looking at it in a one-dimensional context. It is more than that. You could place me at far left, far right, centre, centre left, whatever, I dont care for labels. Its the concept that matters. BTW, if you are going to judge my position based on my previos posts, or skim reading a first draft of an article produced under the influence of many chemicals, then accept that your interpretation is most likely flawed. Perhaps ask me for my own definition?
    "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
    "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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    • #32
      My interpretion isn't flawed. It is called an opinion.

      You have an opinion. Now I would appreciate if you kept it away from others and myself.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #33
        Originally posted by elijah
        Show me an American who doesnt love liberty? Once the cloak of the flag that the government is using to justify everything now, is removed, people will surely see things in their true light.
        I said nin the future..... not now.

        It couldnt happen now....

        Do you know who the next leaders of America will be?

        Im graduation from highschool in a few weeks-I can tell you on good ground that the next generation is more clueless and self-indulgant then the last..... this will continue.

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        • #34
          actually only Fez preaches liberty:
          I prefer a police state than being dead.
          justice is might

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          • #35
            "You don't preach liberty"

            Dont tell me what I dont preach! And dont compare me to Che Guivara, I respect the man to an extent but I dont agree with him. If you can tell someone who wrote an article advocating the theoretical maximum for liberty, that he doesnt preach liberty, then you, my friend, need to listen!
            "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
            "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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            • #36
              I wholeheartedly agree with the OP. These worrying trends, if left unchecked for only a few hundred years, will undoubtedly result in despotism. I live in fear of its arrival.
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              • #37
                "I would appreciate if you kept it away from others and myself"

                Why?

                " I said nin the future..... not now"

                Best get off the road early

                "Im graduation from highschool in a few weeks-I can tell you on good ground that the next generation is more clueless and self-indulgant then the last..... this will continue"

                Congrats on graduating. Congrats on being able to see stuff most people cant. Do you intend to try to rectify the situation?
                "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by elijah
                  Dont tell me what I dont preach! And dont compare me to Che Guivara, I respect the man to an extent but I dont agree with him. If you can tell someone who wrote an article advocating the theoretical maximum for liberty, that he doesnt preach liberty, then you, my friend, need to listen!
                  Keep to yourself. Stay out of my life and you won't get any heat from me. I don't want you running some dumb revolution, because it will end up as a failure.

                  You don't advocate liberty, you advocate BS.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #39
                    I wholeheartedly agree with the OP. These worrying trends, if left unchecked for only a few hundred years, will undoubtedly result in despotism. I live in fear of its arrival.




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                    Yes, of course we'll end in despotism, so just stop your whining and just put me in charge now. Therefore we won't have to go through those deaths and stuff during the revolution.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #40
                      The USA Patriot Act, like it or not, does not interfere with voting or the constitutional process. If terrorism increases, we could well move towards an Israel type system of very heavy internal security, but so far nothing has happened that has undermine the Constitutional Process for the election of leaders.
                      "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

                      "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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                      • #41
                        "I don't want you running some dumb revolution, because it will end up as a failure"



                        Do you honestly think I'm some kinda revolutionary communist?

                        "Keep to yourself. Stay out of my life and you won't get any heat from me"

                        I assume you live in a free country where you are free to read what you wish? I live in a (relatively) free country where I have freedom of speech. I intend to use it. You have a problem with that? Talk to Tony Blair.
                        "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                        "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                        • #42
                          Elijah: Yes I do live in a free country... well relatively free... Argentina. I don't trust the media though as it is all corrupt like the politics. But I am moving to the US.

                          I am not trying to silence you. I am saying don't shove it down others throats as you have been doing. That will get you in a whole lot of trouble. We see that happen with Christian fundamentalists who go on a crusade to convert people.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #43
                            "he USA Patriot Act, like it or not, does not interfere with voting or the constitutional process"

                            Agreed, and that is good. The constitution as it is is quite impressive. It does interfere with the right to privacy, and the notion of tyranny by majority (or minority depends on interpretation... i say majority... its cosmetic who cares ). I think its a step in the wrong direction and I think that many or most Americans are smart enough to see that.
                            "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                            "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                            • #44
                              "don't shove it down others throats as you have been doing. That will get you in a whole lot of trouble"

                              Im not shoving it down throats, I'm merely posting my opinions as many people do here. I have neither the power, inclination or time to force opinions on people. If people have a problem with my opinions, they can question, critique them, or ignore me. Many do. Some disagree, some agree (in general) and that is good. I trust you do, and that is fine, question them, critique them, disagree with me, for that is healthy for all imo. Lets not go into ad hominems.

                              If its because I'm British, I advocate handing the Falklands over! jk
                              "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                              "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                              • #45
                                Okay I disagree with you entirely and will ignore you. I don't have the time either.. I got to get ready for a presentation tomorrow.

                                I am not Argentine. Rather I am Spanish. So I want Gibraltar back.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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