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My BS meter is going wild right now Che. Can you give me a reputable souce (that means not one of the usual anti-American sources).Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The US is now putting off Iraqi self-rule "indefinately."Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Is The Boston Globe good enough for you?Originally posted by Oerdin
My BS meter is going wild right now Che. Can you give me a reputable souce (that means not one of the usual anti-American sources).Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Hmmm... My Ctrl-F doesn't yield the word "indefinitely."I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Do you have a TV? This has been reported by every news source I've seen... even Fox.My BS meter is going wild right now Che. Can you give me a reputable souce (that means not one of the usual anti-American sources).To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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update:
1. Iraqi self-rule (ie interim administration) is now planned for July.
2. Thom Friedman of the NYT says that only 30% of shiites want a Khomeini-like govt. Thats out of the 60% of Iraqis who are Shiites. So altogether only 18% of Iraqi want Iraq to be like Iran.
3. France, Russia and Germany announced today they will support the revised version of the US-UK-Spain resolution lifting sanctions on Iraq, and established the relationship of the UN to the occupying Authority. This should open the way to participation by various nations in peacekeeping and policing, and should aid in reconstruction."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Last I heard the interim government takes over in July. That would be one month + not indefinitely.
Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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So the right thing to do was to invade Saudi, then. Were the US forces using outdated maps again?Originally posted by lord of the mark
Well, OK. You are confusing the prudential and legal cases for the war. The prudential case for war certainly included the prospect of being better situated to bring pressure on Saudi Arabia. need I remind you that 3000 of my fellow citizens were murdered on 9/11 by a terrorist group that received financial (and probably other) assistance from within the Saudi kingdom, and that the Saudi kingdom is the center for radical wahabi incitement?
As I recall, UNSCR 1441 did not authorise the use of force in any eventuality at all. Also, it seemed to me that the weapons inspectors were making progress, and much of the US "intelligence" was found to be bunk.Originally posted by lord of the mark
WMD where the casus belli - and let us recall, UNSC 1441 required Saddam to prove that he DID not have WMD - there is no evidence he was not in violation of that - if he had really destroyed all WMD prior to 2002 (which i do not believe) why didnt he encourage his scientists to cooperate?
Was Saddam Hussein implying he had NBC weapons? If not, what's your point?Originally posted by lord of the mark
Was it to keep the IMPRESSION he had WMD, which would give him the same regional leverage but at less expense? If so then we were certainly right to go after him, even if no WMD are found.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."Comment
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Re: Baghdad civilian casualties, DU, etc.
Duhhhhhhhhhhhh! Why dance around "indirect" when the Department of the Army (and the other services have their versions) have long-published, publicly available policies and procedures for handling DU ordnance and for decontamination?Originally posted by chegitz guevara
In the meantime, the Pentagon indirectly admits that DU is dangerous by ordering soldiers to stay away from areas contaminated with DU.
The "issue" is HOW ****ING DANGEROUS.
Nobody from the Pentagon ever said the stuff was chocolate-****ing-chip cookie dough. It's just not the make-you-glow-in-the-dark-while-your-schlong-drops-off neurosis that the constant DU whiners make it out to be.
When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."Comment
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Che, please post the article -- it's registered only.No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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Isn't that where Jayson Blair worked before moving up to the New York times?No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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And it will continue to play out for eternity.Originally posted by Agathon
Let's not forget that most of us who opposed the war opposed it because of what would happen afterwards. That still has to play out.He's got the Midas touch.
But he touched it too much!
Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!Comment
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Che, the word 'indefinately' dosen't even show up in that article; further, it's clear from that article that nobody, with the possible exception of the INC, is ready to move forward yet -- everybody's still talking with everybody.No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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Anyone who'd rather see people die than be wrong about something is a pretty disgusting individual.Originally posted by Ming
I know you are che... but I don't get that feeling that some of the other anti war people are.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
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Re: Re: Baghdad civilian casualties, DU, etc.
You mean, I should drop depleted uranium from my diet?Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Duhhhhhhhhhhhh! Why dance around "indirect" when the Department of the Army (and the other services have their versions) have long-published, publicly available policies and procedures for handling DU ordnance and for decontamination?
The "issue" is HOW ****ING DANGEROUS. Nobody from the Pentagon ever said the stuff was chocolate-****ing-chip cookie dough. It's just not the make-you-glow-in-the-dark-while-your-schlong-drops-off neurosis that the constant DU whiners make it out to be.
“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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