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  • #16
    Nietzche
    Was out of his ****ing mind.

    He was also big on the idea that society is an artificial construct, designed to protect our feeble minds from the awful reality of human nature. And, of course, the only people who could tear aside this "veil" were the Great Men (Ubermensch or somesuch) who, accordingly to Nietzche, could do just about anything.

    I am above the Law! [/Southpark]

    -Arrian
    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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    • #17
      Sartre is very difficult to read. I bought "Being and Nothingness" and have tried several times to read it but never got further than a couple of pages. Ugh

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      • #18
        To start with philosophy (at the risk of sounding pedantic) start of with with "Sofie's world" - Gardner(?). It gives some nice introduvtions to all the philosophies through the ages.
        -

        That's not really my interpretation on Nietzsche, for me it's about becoming more then you are.
        Last edited by alva; May 19, 2003, 11:45.
        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
        Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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        • #19
          No one mentioned Tao of Poo yet...
          :-p

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kaak
            I would recommend you start earlier with some presocratics, particularly Epicurus, and the Atomists. It isn't heavy reading, and won't take you long.
            Epicurus is post-socratic.

            Try reading some popular Russell. It's accessible and not prone to flaky misinterpretations.
            Only feebs vote.

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            • #21
              And Habermas is not generally studied by professional philosophers. Nor are Derrida or Kristeva or any of those other "cranks". Basically, if a contemporary philosopher wraps up his arguments in excessive verbiage and is loved by literary theorists, he isn't a serious thinker.

              I'd be willing to argue that this stuff isn't philosophy, but a peculiar kind of literature.
              Only feebs vote.

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              • #22
                No one mentioned Tao of Poo yet...
                Cute book. Works as a decent introduction to Taoism.
                Stop Quoting Ben

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Agathon
                  Try reading some popular Russell. It's accessible and not prone to flaky misinterpretations.
                  Russell is good, but start with something easy, such as "Why I am not a Christian" instead of "Limits of Knowledge."
                  (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                  (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                  (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Boshko
                    Cute book. Works as a decent introduction to Taoism.
                    Nah, The Tao of Motorcycle Maintanence is better.
                    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                    • #25
                      zen not tao UR
                      and it is a great book
                      Stop Quoting Ben

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                      • #26
                        "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"



                        Took me years to get into it - well worth the effort.
                        Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
                        "The CIA does nothing, says nothing, allows nothing, unless its own interests are served. They are the biggest assembly of liars and theives this country ever put under one roof and they are an abomination" Deputy COS (Intel) US Army 1981-84

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                        • #27
                          I've never read a good philosophy book. They all put me to sleep. And they usually are logically total crap, without the sort of rigor that mathematics has.

                          My advice is to work out philosophy for yourself; you don't need blowhards telling you how to think.
                          "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                          -Bokonon

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                          • #28
                            Read "Apolyon: The OT Board"

                            Good mix of views with a lot of humor
                            Monkey!!!

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                            • #29
                              Nietzche is all about the "Will to Power"

                              He feels that the moral way through life is to do whatever it takes to amass the most power for yourself and be the most advanced, powerful human possible. Do whatever you want, whenever you want, and don't let anyone else get in your way.


                              It seems someone doesn't like Nietzche .

                              He also states that society is constructed to keep all the masses like sheep. Certain truthes are drilled into the heads of people until they believe them and follow them and simply nod. Nietzche says there is no absolute truth or morality and those great men, who don't fall into the idea of being sheep should form their own truths and morals and cast away the constructs of society. The thing to grasp is power, but not for its own sake, but because with power you are truely free of the hive-mind of the mass and society. In the end, power is about freedom to Nietzche. Those that break the mold are the ones who are truely free, while those that follow, while they may say they are free, are really enslaved.

                              Personally I love Nietzche, but your milage may vary .
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                              • #30
                                Ignore. Me stoopid.
                                "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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