If no WMD found; will Bush be made out to be a liar?

[Sava]

Originally posted by Edan


You think if the CIA is gunna make up falsified sattelite photos, they're gunn ause photoshop so you can tell?

I said it looked like photoshop creations... give me a few days, and I'll produce enough "Photographic evidence" that my house is secretly a nuke facility

No, that is what is known as 20+ years of experience on the part of the Iraqis to hide this stuff so they don't have the same thing that happened the last time they openly displayed the stuff for all to see.

Thats why, after the first Gulf War, inspectors found three times as many weapons sites than they had originally suspected of being, and continued to find a lot more stuff after they thought they had uncovered nearly everything.

and after the inital phase of the second Gulf War, what have we found... OH YEAH THATS RIGHT... NOTHING

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by Sava
I said it looked like photoshop creations... give me a few days, and I'll produce enough "Photographic evidence" that my house is secretly a nuke facility

Shhhh... don't tell Hans Blix or the UN will send the North Korean Army to "liberate the US people from its tyrannical Republican dictatorship"

[Edan]

Originally posted by Sava
I said it looked like photoshop creations... give me a few days, and I'll produce enough "Photographic evidence" that my house is secretly a nuke facility

Yes - and don't you think the CIA can do a little better job of it than you can?

and after the inital phase of the second Gulf War, what have we found... OH YEAH THATS RIGHT... NOTHING

Be patient, they haven't even searched 10% of the suspected sites yet.

[Master Zen]

Because the weapons inspectors probably searched the other 90% and found nothing either!

[faded glory]

Sigh...10kb Brains....20gb Mouths

"1)I stand corrected on the assertion that the US "installed "Saddam more accurately we just armed him against the Iranians during the 1st Reagan term"

84 Million dollars? Umm..thats some arming! Bet he bought all 3 MiG-21 fighter jets with that! If you want to point fingers, point to France and Russia. Who loaned Saddam 80 Billion dollars to build his army.

"2)And now that you mention it Faded {since I didn't }the Mujahadeen freedom fighters were also armed by the US or did you forget about Oliver North another right wing criminal (see Iran -Contra scandal)"

Mujahadeen was a different organization from Al-queda. Some Mujahadeen fighters broke off into Al-queda. Around that time Taliban wasnt even heard of. The Taliban came about in 1994 in Pakistan. And dont bring Ollie into this.

"3)The guns are what made these regimes powerful other larger populations apposed them like the Kurds but they did nt have the weapons to gain controle of the Narcotics trade or the Oil trade hence not the money to buy off the local authorities or purchase more GUNS so lets just say we helped alot"

Ya ok...

"4)I wonder who gave them the damned gas lets suppose it was the Ruskies anyway we knew they had that since like 78 cause they used it to repel Iranian human wave attacks.I find denial both Ignorant and distressing myself. I will yeild that I am a wienie left wing ignoramouse however"



Conclusion: He isnt Intel Inside, thats for sure.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by faded glory
Sigh...10kb Brains....20gb Mouths

"1)I stand corrected on the assertion that the US "installed "Saddam more accurately we just armed him against the Iranians during the 1st Reagan term"

84 Million dollars? Umm..thats some arming! Bet he bought all 3 MiG-21 fighter jets with that! If you want to point fingers, point to France and Russia. Who loaned Saddam 80 Billion dollars to build his army.

And what's wrong with that? It was perfectly legal to do so. Keep your fingers where they belong.

[faded glory]

Ya so it was. My point was why accuse America for such a tiny amount when 2 other nations generated 99.8% of the goods.

[Master Zen]

Maybe because the US did nothing to stop Hussein becoming a regional threat, did nothing to stop the abuses of "Chemical" Ali, did nothing to stop their chemical and nuclear weapons programs, and now expects us to believe that they were honestly concerned about those issues

[Joseph]

Originally posted by Vandal-1
1)I stand corrected on the assertion that the US "installed "Saddam more accurately we just armed him against the Iranians during the 1st Reagan term.
2)And now that you mention it Faded {since I didn't }the Mujahadeen freedom fighters were also armed by the US or did you forget about Oliver North another right wing criminal (see Iran -Contra scandal)
3)The guns are what made these regimes powerful other larger populations apposed them like the Kurds but they did nt have the weapons to gain controle of the Narcotics trade or the Oil trade hence not the money to buy off the local authorities or purchase more GUNS so lets just say we helped alot
4)I wonder who gave them the damned gas lets suppose it was the Ruskies anyway we knew they had that since like 78 cause they used it to repel Iranian human wave attacks.I find denial both Ignorant and distressing myself. I will yeild that I am a wienie left wing ignoramouse however

Actually we gave weapons to both sides. That way they could kill each other. Not bad uh.

[Jaguar]

No. The media's attention span is too short.

There was contraversy before the war, and then there was action during the war. The media loves those. Searching for random stuff in the desert after the war isn't interesting.

[connorkimbro]

if WMD isn' found, then bush is a liar?

false. use logic. just because WMD's exists doesn't mean we will successfully find them.

my wallet exists, but i bet you couldn't find it, even if you went to my room to look for it. Hell, half the time even I can't find it, and it's my damn wallet!

[Elden]

Originally posted by connorkimbro
if WMD isn' found, then bush is a liar?

false. use logic. just because WMD's exists doesn't mean we will successfully find them.

my wallet exists, but i bet you couldn't find it, even if you went to my room to look for it. Hell, half the time even I can't find it, and it's my damn wallet!

A wallet in a room is very different to a WoMD in Iraq you should take your own advice and "use logic"

[connorkimbro]

Elden: Sorry, my humor must have confused you and caused you to miss the point.

Saying "WMD exists" is NOT equal to saying "We will find WMD"

If he had said the latter, and we had not found them, then that would be a lie.

[Elden]

Originally posted by connorkimbro
Saying "WMD exists" is NOT equal to saying "We will find WMD"

But you can't prove that they do exist either...

EDIT: removed typo

[Darius871]

True. So if it can't be proven either way, nobody is a liar.