Man Tells Cops that his Pot was Stolen!

[orange]

If we would just kill the ppl we are suppose to we'd have enough room to fit all the rest...

[orange]

i hope some day you are falsely convicted of a capital crime in the state of Texas.

[yavoon]

yah well willem alcohol isnt legal cuz its cough drops. so to say that weed should be legal because its less harmful when alcohol legality isnt based on its harm.
is tenuous.

and I only brought up murder to introduce a point, which I then stated. if u have someone who finds something should be immoral/illegal(regardless of how "wrong" u think that postition is). he's not going to want it decriminalised just because other ppl do it. and infact the very idea is laffable. so now I've stated it twice.

u seem blinded by ur fervor to flame me instead of ne logical progression.

[Willem]

Originally posted by yavoon
yah well willem alcohol isnt legal cuz its cough drops. so to say that weed should be legal because its less harmful when alcohol legality isnt based on its harm.
is tenuous.

and I only brought up murder to introduce a point, which I then stated. if u have someone who finds something should be immoral/illegal(regardless of how "wrong" u think that postition is). he's not going to want it decriminalised just because other ppl do it. and infact the very idea is laffable. so now I've stated it twice.

u seem blinded by ur fervor to flame me instead of ne logical progression.

I've been trying to find something in that post that makes sense, but it seems to have eluded me.

Are you saying that alcohol isn't legal? What's this bit about cough drops? And yes, I realize that there is a minority of morally blind people that object to anything that gives other people some pleasure. What does that prove?

And I'm not trying to flame you, I'm merely trying to point out the illogic of your position. Your talking out of both sides of your mouth at once and not making any sense in the process.

PS On what basis should we maintain this prohibition of marijuana? Why bother with all the time and money if it can't be stopped anyway, and since it doesn't really hurt anybody? I've offered up a few reasons not to, let's hear some reasons why we should?

[yavoon]

I never supported marijuana prohibition. which I have already said. I merely said u rnt going to convince ppl to make it legal cuz lotsa ppl do it. Imagine for a thot exercise that for wutever reason u thot marijuana was wrong and should be illegal. now imagine someone coming up to u and saying "but man ppl smoke anyway!" would u be like "oh well crap lets make it legal then. perhaps not.

I'm sorry u didnt make this connection. I should be much plainer when talking to some ppl. cough drops=very harmless. alcohol isnt legal cuz its harmless.

[Imran Siddiqui]

When did we stop laughing about the idiot that told the cops that someone stole his pot?

[GePap]

There is no way to make a case for why marijuana smoking is "immoral": the reason it, and other drugs are illegal, are based on the supposed cost of drug addiction on society: the better comparison is not to Murder, but to Seat Belt laws. In essence, the state is saying that the cost to society of allowing the use of hard drugs is so great and damaging that they must be banned, just as the cost of having people ride without seatbelts is greater than the cost of forcing people to wear them.

This is why your "muder" argument is fallacious: the case against Drugs is primarilly one of costs, as Rufus stated, not one of "morality". The "moral" argument about addiction applis just as well to alcohol, gambling, and tabacco, which are generally legal (with a few exceptions for gambling).

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
When did we stop laughing about the idiot that told the cops that someone stole his pot?

Beats me. I wish we'd go back to that.

[GePap]

He wasn't arrested: there is no schadenfreude here....

[Willem]

Originally posted by yavoon
alcohol isnt legal cuz its harmless.

No, it's legal because so many people were using it back in the 30's that the authorities decided that it was futile to try and stamp it out, and opted instead to legalize and control it. Hence legal drinking ages, licensed establishments for consumption, impaired driving regulations etc. etc. You have heard of Prohibition haven't you, way back when? It didn't work then, and it's not working now for marijuana, which is even less harmful to people than alcohol.

[yavoon]

first of all the murder thing is not a direct analogy. it was outrageous on purpose(duh?) and infact I've even explained it further. but to go at it again. if u think something SHOULD be illegal, u r not going to be dissuaded by the fact that lots of ppl do it. I certainly wouldn't legalize(insert crime here) just cuz it was rampant!

and I'm pretty libertarian so protecting me from myself is something I will never be in favor of(just to ward off all those psycho ppl who still think I wna keep marijuana illegal). so in that way I am sincerely against all seat belt laws(save infants).

[Dinner]

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[yavoon]

to say marijuana "prohibition" is not working on the same level of alcohol prohibition is insane. alcohol consumption is the vast majority of the nation. marijuana consumption is a most definite minority. and probably a small minority at that.

lots of ppl have smoked, very few smoke when they are adults tho. so I'd say that prohibition is actually WORKING.

[GePap]

I actually agree with you yavoon on the notion that "people do it" is not justification of any kind for a change in the law.

But I neevr will get libertarians: On the issue of seatbelts: lets say you get into an accident and because you are not wearing a seatbelt, what would have been a situation from which you can walk away now is one in which without emergency care you die. Now, should the state pick up the tab of dragging your ass to a hospital and stiching you together? Or should the medics just come, see that you were stupid enough not to put on your seatbelt, and decide: damn it, the guy's a moron..let him die?

[Willem]

Originally posted by yavoon
if u think something SHOULD be illegal, u r not going to be dissuaded by the fact that lots of ppl do it. I certainly wouldn't legalize(insert crime here) just cuz it was rampant!

I don't understand your point. I've already mentioned that's just one of the reasons why we should change our laws, there are several. I'm not sure why you're sticking to this narrow track of yours.