What has globalization ever done to you?

[gsmoove23]

ranskaldan, please. If the MNC offers jobs to children it can pay them much less and also perpetuate the practice of child labor. Why not pay adults a wage that is above average for the country and perhaps their children won't have to work. Nevertheless, if you offer adult only jobs that will increase the job pool for adults, meaning many of them will be able to make enough so their children won't have to work.

[Arrian]

There is a perfectly natural alliance of sorts between the anti-globalization crowd and Union workers or uskilled workers in countries that are losing jobs to factories abroad. Its a double whammy exploiting workers abroad for dirt pay maximizing the profit in moving jobs away from more developed countries where workers have fought hard for the right to be paid decent wages.

Yes, there is. They are the two sides of the "socioeconomic impact" coin. But I wasn't referring to that.

Arrian :
Erm, what is the connection between my whining on ACI and gsmosse's economic points ? I don't exactly get it.

*snip*

Spiff,

None, really. And that's what I was saying (see the last sentance in the post). But "anti-globalization" seems to include both issues. Hence your comments regarding ACI and then gsmoove's comments on the socioeconomic impact of globalization.

That's what I was talking about.

-Arrian

editor's note: "ACI" refers to "American Cultural Imperialism"

[Dinner]

Now, if those same unionized workers hadn't run up their wages compared to the rest of the competetion would they be losing their jobs? Unions are good but militant unions almost always end up costing their members the very jobs they are try to protect.

[ranskaldan]

Originally posted by gsmoove23
ranskaldan, please. If the MNC offers jobs to children it can pay them much less and also perpetuate the practice of child labor. Why not pay adults a wage that is above average for the country and perhaps their children won't have to work. Nevertheless, if you offer adult only jobs that will increase the job pool for adults, meaning many of them will be able to make enough so their children won't have to work.

And who exactly is going to convince MNC's to do that?

Put legislation like that into place and MNC's would simply move. Then those countries - adults AND children - can simply go to hell.

Of course, we wish that MNC's could simply be nice and stay to pay more. We also wish that people could be nice to each other so that communism could finally work.

[gsmoove23]

Thats why I'm thinking the legislation should come from the home country of the MNC or an international authority. Its ridiculous to think that 3rd world governments could control MNCs when some have the resources to buy the country 5 times over.

[ranskaldan]

Originally posted by gsmoove23
Thats why I'm thinking the legislation should come from the home country of the MNC or an international authority. Its ridiculous to think that 3rd world governments could control MNCs when some have the resources to buy the country 5 times over.

I don't know about this actually. Can the legislation of one country have any power over what its corporations do abroad?

[DinoDoc]

No.

[Spiffor]

It can have power if it plans to punish these corporations at home for their behaviour abroad (like forbidding companies to deal with the US if they have dealt with Iran). But that requires a huge political will.

[Sava]

What kind of changes?

For starters... free education and health care. Eventually, the abolition of the minimum wage.

[Sirotnikov]

Erm, could some of the more spammy posts be deleted please?

[ranskaldan]

Originally posted by Spiffor
It can have power if it plans to punish these corporations at home for their behaviour abroad (like forbidding companies to deal with the US if they have dealt with Iran). But that requires a huge political will.

Politicians probably can't piss off their own sponsors like that.

Sava: It looks workable - except that you'll offend everyone on the entire political spectrum one way or the other.

[Bosh]

Globalization, led by the world bank and the IMF, will lead America and the world to a brigher tommorow!

[Sava]

Sava: It looks workable - except that you'll offend everyone on the entire political spectrum one way or the other.

I wouldn't have it any other way!

[Admiral PJ]

City of the gods is distributed by a US company which will make a lot of the profits , so its more american global imperialism.

Political globalisation and world unity is needed, which could be helped by positive global culture.

A lot of so called cultural globalisation is just done to make money and lacks any meaningful cultural content, if its done with a moral and non nationilist way its much more relevant.

[Dinner]

Of course the guy owning the taco shop or Kibab shop/ or Indian food place wants to make money. That is irrelivent. The important point is that consumers now have an increase in the number of choices which are availible to them.

That simply can't be a bad thing.