The quest for REAL individualism (isn't as hard as you might think)

[orange]

White :: Black
Communism :: Capitalism

Don't you mean

Red :: White
Communism :: Capitalism

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
In a university, no.

Thank you.

[Kuciwalker]

I am me. No one else is me. I'm way too weird. No one else wants to be me. I scare people. I scare people badly.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Thank you.

People still need friends. People will put up with a lot of **** to keep friendships . . . at least until they understand their own self-worth. Then they either realize they're *******s and they deserve to have ******* friends or they get a better quality of friend.

I have a better quality of friend. . . . I got you guys.

[GePap]

I have never met somene who was not an individual, even if they happened to be very trend concisous and always eager to appear as fully conformits. Something or other always lurks underneath that singles them out, which of course many times forces these people to try to snuff it, but they can't, as it is part of oneself.

There is no inherent value in being "an individual". I am sure plenty of "individuals" whish to express themselves as one in something else, as a member of a group. As long as no one tries to "change" me, I don't care how they decide to act on thier lives.

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


People still need friends. People will put up with a lot of **** to keep friendships . . . at least until they understand their own self-worth. Then they either realize they're *******s and they deserve to have ******* friends or they get a better quality of friend.

I have a better quality of friend. . . . I got you guys.

Well the key is finding a balance between what you will compromise on your friends with for the sake of friendship, and what you will hold out on. It helps to find groups of friends who will be tolerant and not be demanding that you conform.

[orange]

People still need friends. People will put up with a lot of **** to keep friendships . . . at least until they understand their own self-worth. Then they either realize they're *******s and they deserve to have ******* friends or they get a better quality of friend.

Oh, this isn't about friendship. And this isn't about people being *******s. This is about people simply following trends for no other reason than to be exactly what their friends are. That is the hive mentality of which I speak. That is the lack of individualism. But it goes further than that. It's about identification. People talk about superficialities as if it defines who they are, is an excuse for who they are, or makes them something else.

Example from the 'article' if you want to call it that: Group of friends talking about 'Diversity'...one of them says "I'm all about Diversity. Diversity is my thing" another, not in the group, asks "What do you do that's Diverse?".

"Oh, well I'm in an all black sorority."

Everyone = "oooh"

Me = floored. How does that make you diverse?? If I said "I'm in the KKK" does that make me diverse?

Another example...today we are outside waiting for a few of our friends to go to lunch. One of my friends is saying how much he loves Sundays. The air is so crisp, and you can sleep in, and yada yada yada...basically he goes on and on with his flowerly language as if to say "I'm a man of feeling, I'm deep" when really he's not...I know he's not...but no one else seems to recognize the fact that he pulls this **** out of thin air just to hear himself talk. Futhermore, when we're done eating, he starts talking about how much he hates Sundays. People stare and listen and nod as if he's talking so much sense when just an hour ago he was rambling on about how great they were...

I said "I'm sorry, I thought you said Sundays were great?" He says "well, yes, well it all depends on how you look at things... (insert another hour of flowerly language here)"

I know another girl who for the past year has been 'anti-pop culture' because her friends were too. She's also 'straight-edge'. She got screwed on housing assignments this year, and had to transfer...transfered into a triple with two Eminem loving pop-culture party animals. Now she is too. Why? Because she's transparent...she mimics who she is around. And she's not the only one, I know plenty of people who do that...that's one of the worst.

Then there's my all time personal favourite...when people change their minds mid sentence to fit the majority.

Person: "Hey guys, have you ever heard of (insert band name here). I think they're great!"

Group: "we don't really like them that much"

Person: "well, i didn't mean they're great, I mean they're ok. I kinda liked their one song, anyway"

If you like them, like them. If you do'nt, don't. But make up your mind. Take a stand!

I have a better quality of friend. . . . I got you guys.

I consider almost everyone at Apolyton to be a good example of an ideal individual. I think most of us think for ourselves, don't let the majority change our minds except through ration and debate, and are comftorable with who we are. That's a positive thing. If only more people (especially at the college level) were like that in real life

[orange]

I recently heard a girl blame her D+ on a test on the fact that she was abused as a child. Give me a ****ing break.

[Kuciwalker]

orange - one thing is true though. A person is defined by the set of communities to which he or she belongs. A person who is not a member of a community is dead.

[orange]

Hermits?

I don't define myself by my communities. I define myself by my own attributes, one of which is, I have a big ****ing mouth.

[Kuciwalker]

Hermits are part of the community of hermits. You are part of the community of individualists. You are part of the community of Apolyton posters. You are part of the subset of that community, OT posters. You are part of the community of...

You see?

[orange]

No.

Those things don't define me. Community of hermits

[tinyp3nis]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


People still need friends. People will put up with a lot of **** to keep friendships . . . at least until they understand their own self-worth. Then they either realize they're *******s and they deserve to have ******* friends or they get a better quality of friend.

I have a better quality of friend. . . . I got you guys.

So true. I just had this happen to me, for the first time ever. I have a old friend of mine, whom I've known for 10 years, and we sometimes had "big issues with eachothers personalities". I put up many of hes shortcomings, untill I finally gave up on him late last year and haven't contacted him since. He wasn't really a close friend material, you have to get to know people very well before you can tell if they are rotten inside.

[tinyp3nis]

Originally posted by skywalker
orange - one thing is true though. A person is defined by the set of communities to which he or she belongs. A person who is not a member of a community is dead.

Only partly.

[monolith94]

Wow... way too be judgemental, dude. You sure are unique in that. Gee - I wonder if Fight Club was on your mind at all?