X Men 2 *Spoilers*

[orange]

i loved the overtones to homosexuality in that scene

[chequita guevara]

The X-men have long been considered an allogory for homosexuality. Especially the whole anti-mutie campaign, as it was largely led by Moral Majority types.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
The X-men have long been considered an allogory for homosexuality.

They've been adopted by a lot of minorities.

Starchild: This site gives a decent rundown of Apocalypse's history.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Saw it last night. Awesome movie. Great first action sequence. Nightcrawler as always kicks a$$. He always was my favorite of the Xmen and I'm glad they decided to include him. The best part of the movie from Hollywoods perspective is that I don't think I've ever seen a movie do a better job of setting up the sequels.

[Static Universe]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
I don't know how much they've changed the story, but back in the 80s, he and Xavior had fought together in the Israeli War of Indepenedence. Magento was flinging Egyptian tanks around. Magneto was still self-identifying as a Jew at that time, and since his powers came of age, he refused to let the Holocaust happen again.

The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants came later.

I think Magneto was originally identified as a Eastern European Slav, then as an Eastern European Jew. Comic heroes/villains weren't identified as Jews until the late 70s/early 80s, Kitty Pryde being the first I remember seeing.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Saw it last night. Awesome movie. Great first action sequence. Nightcrawler as always kicks a$$. He always was my favorite of the Xmen and I'm glad they decided to include him. The best part of the movie from Hollywoods perspective is that I don't think I've ever seen a movie do a better job of setting up the sequels.

It's all about BAMF! and the Fuxxy Elf.

"But in the Munich Circus, I am known as..."

[Static Universe]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
Saw it last night. Awesome movie. Great first action sequence. Nightcrawler as always kicks a$$. He always was my favorite of the Xmen and I'm glad they decided to include him. The best part of the movie from Hollywoods perspective is that I don't think I've ever seen a movie do a better job of setting up the sequels.

Nightcrawler is one of my favorites as well. His best moment was way, way back when Dr. Doom and Arcade have the X-Men all captured in supposedly escape-proof ways, Nightcrawler being in a cube he can't see out of so he doesn't know where to teleport to.

While Doom is bragging about his accomplishment, Arcade starts laughing and points out Nightcrawler ain't in his cube anymore. Best "to be continued..." ever.

[The Templar]

OK, I'm going way the hell back here, but ...

Wasn't the Pheonix some sort of alien entity that replaced Jean Gray (X-Factor #1 I think? Its been years...) That whole thing was lame.

Great movie, and for the most part better than the comics ever were.

One exception though - would have liked Guardian showing up for Wolverine. Wasn't Department H Canadian?

[FrustratedPoet]

Originally posted by The Templar
Wasn't the Pheonix some sort of alien entity that replaced Jean Gray

Yeah, after Jean was very nearly killed Phoenix kept her alive and slowly healing in a pod at the bottom of the ocean (or something). Then, it made an exact copy of her body, personality and memory and inhabited it.

Then later, after Phoenix had become Dark Phoenix and eventually died the recently fully healed Jean's pod came back to the surface and the X-men found it again.

Lame-o-rama.

[MarkG]

But what really set this movie apart for me - what put it miles above any super hero film I have seen since the second Superman - was the escape of Magneto. I saw a thread here recently that claimed Magneto was weak and lame. I couldn't disagree more. His escape from his plastic gaol was as satisfying as Hannibal Lecter's great escape in Silence of the Lambs. Bryan Singer obviously drew inspiration from that film. Seeing Magneto manipulating that liquid metal, hovering over the gulf like a transcendant god - it was simply superb. Not since Superman II when Superman crushed the hand of General Zod has a previously impotent character made such a dramatic comeback.

dont know about superman, but that scene was the most fascinating SF scene (both in terms of drama but also the sf behind it) i've ever seen

[MarkG]

wow, i killed the thread

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by MarkG
dont know about superman, but that scene was the most fascinating SF scene (both in terms of drama but also the sf behind it) i've ever seen

I loved the scene too, but in hindsight, I think perhaps Magneto enjoyed it a little too much.

[Q Classic]

he might have enjoyed it a little too much, but hell, i enjoyed it just as much as he did...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by MarkG
wow, i killed the thread

Never trust a beautiful woman, Mark. Especially if she is interested in you.

[Japher]

Now I really want to see it