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  • #46
    Post reprint. Still apt.

    Having heard most of the songs listed above I’m going to dismiss nearly all of them as lightweights in terms of crashing depression.

    At this point I'll reveal that my record collection (which is seriously vast- over 1000 albums in fact) largely comprises of some of the most emotionally ravaged songs ever committed to vinyl. I can't get enough of them- in fact I have often bought records by people I've never heard purely on the strength of a single review describing the object as traumatic listening. Most of which I've loved.

    I'm not talking about angst or adolescent moping here. What I looked for was music made in the very grip of emotional breakdown- the sound of somebody literally pouring their soul into music and ripping their guts out in the process. I suppose it could be likened to drug addiction in that I was always looking for the stronger hit, and rejecting lesser depression in the process.

    When pressed on the subject I came up with the analogy that listening to such music was like picking at a scab- painful, self-destructive, self-indulgent and morbidly fascinating. Which sums it up really, although there's a fair bit of emotional voyeurism involved as well. It's a glimpse into the chasm, the edges of which I have danced along from time to time. I can't get enough of it- I love the bleakest and most grief-stricken of music and seek it out whenever I can. Sad songs are fab. So what do you lot think?

    In the meantime here's a quick guide to a few songs guaranteed to kill any party stone dead.

    "Hardly getting over it"- Husker Du. Just ordinary everyday heartbreak. The scariest part is that this song describes things that are almost certainly going to happen to all of us.

    "Kathleen"- American Music Club. Mark Eitzel is godhead of grief and he really tears into himself on this one. It's almost emotionally crippled. It's almost scary.

    "United Kingdom"- American Music Club. Eitzel goes to the other extreme. Psychotically numb.

    "24"- Red House Painters. Feeling young and fresh? Play this and hear the reaper sharpening his scythe especially for you. Growing old inevitably.

    "The letter"- Kristin Hersh. A first-hand account of what happens during a schizophrenic crisis, when an already imaginative person is no longer able to distinguish reality from fantasy. Think about that. If that doesn't terrify you nothing will.

    "It's all over"- The God Machine. So much has drained out of this song it's left barely moving and colder than the arctic.

    "Man to child"- House of love. Pure resignation, and beautiful with it.

    “She can see the angels coming”- Grant Hart. If this doesn’t put a lump in your throat you’re not human.

    “I want you”- Elvis Costello. The ultimate in frustrated obsession



    The strangest thing about these songs is that they tend to be astonishingly beautiful.

    If, on the other hand, you’d like to go to the true extremes and hit the point where they become harrowing, and a genuine ordeal to experience- try these.

    “The kids”- Lou Reed. Off “Berlin”. The sounds of children screaming on this were obtained by the producer Bob Ezrin coming home, telling his two children that their mother was dead (falsely), and locking them in a cupboard with a microphone. For a whole album of real depression, buy “Berlin”. It’s a real heavyweight.

    “Don’t play cards with Satan”- Daniel Johnston. Johnston is a genius songwriter but crippled by manic-depression. He wrote this at the absolute pit of depression and it’s very frightening.

    “The bloodbells chime”- Current 93. Current 93 are a disturbing prospect at the best of times , and this is a monster. As is “Broken birds fly”, also by C93.

    For whole albums of depression I recommend these….

    “Berlin”- Lou Reed
    “Down Colorful Hill”- The Red House Painters (though it has one happy song….)
    “Engine”, “California”, “United Kingdom” or “Everclear”- all by American Music Club. Sadness is their life.
    “1990”- Daniel Johnston.
    The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Boris Godunov
      The opening of Mahler's 6th is more martial than gloomy, I think.
      But very grim, especially in Barbirolli's recording.
      Only feebs vote.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Boris Godunov
        Almost anything by Nick Drake.
        I wouldn't say most of Drake's work was depressing. Wistful, yes. A touch melancholic at times, but not depressing.

        "Parasite", "Black-eyed dog" and "Been smoking too long" are the only ones I'd call depressing.
        The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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        • #49
          A question: since I do not know some of the names mentioned, do you also mean depressing music or just depressing lyrics?

          For example you can say "I wanna jump off the Acropolis" (or any other suitable high place) but if you scream it and with a distorted G chord, it doesn't sound so depressing

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          • #50
            In every case, it's the overall effect.
            The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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            • #51
              anything by Clint Mansell (soundtracks of Pi and Requiem for a Dream)
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              • #52
                Well, certainly not "everything" by Clint Mansell, seeing as he used to front Pop Will Eat Itself.....

                "Beaver Patrol"!
                The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                • #53
                  Some phrases from the eels' record Monkspider mentioned:

                  " Going To Your Funeral Part I "

                  Going to your funeral now and feeling
                  I could scream
                  Everything goes away
                  Driving down the highway throught the
                  perfect sunny dream
                  A prefect day for perfect pain

                  Look at all the people with
                  the flowers in their hands
                  They put the flowers on the box
                  that's holding all the sand that was...
                  That was once...
                  That was once you

                  " Elizabeth On The Bathroom Floor "

                  Laying on the bathroom floor
                  Kitty licks my cheek once more
                  And I could try
                  But waking up is harder
                  when you want to die

                  Walter's on the telephone
                  Tell him I am not at home
                  'Cause I think that I am going
                  To a place where I am always high

                  My name's Elizabeth
                  My life is **** and piss


                  " Elecro-shock Blues "

                  Feeling scared today
                  Write down "I am ok"
                  A hundred times the doctors say
                  I am ok
                  I am ok
                  I'm not ok

                  Skin is crawling off
                  Mopping the sweaty drops
                  Sticking around for this ****
                  Another day
                  Another day
                  Not another day

                  Pink pill feels good
                  Finally understood
                  Take me in your warm embrace
                  I am trying
                  I am trying


                  And more good stuff like that


                  (I'm suprised no one has mentioned Soundgarden's Fell on black days" and other Superunknown songs, great for black bleak days)

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp


                    I wouldn't say most of Drake's work was depressing. Wistful, yes. A touch melancholic at times, but not depressing.

                    "Parasite", "Black-eyed dog" and "Been smoking too long" are the only ones I'd call depressing.
                    I couldn't name any single song of his, but my roommates played him a lot, and I thought a lot of his songs were very depressing. He seems to delve into a place where many people just don't want to go. Of course, knowing the circumstances of his life adds to that.

                    ***********

                    Also, several of Schubert's songs are rather glum, especially Die Krahe (The Crow), Der Wanderer and Der Leiermann (The Hurdy-Gurdy Man).
                    Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                    • #55
                      The End of the Rainbow - Richard Thompson
                      How Will I Ever Be Simple Again? - Richard Thompson
                      Never Again - Richard Thompson
                      Walking On A Wire - Richard Thompson

                      Anyone detect a pattern here?

                      Also
                      The Letter - Melanie Harrold,
                      Sometimes I Forget - Loudon Wainwright III
                      Fire & Rain - James Taylor

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