Are we really liberators? US Troops break up Saddam birthday party in Tikrit.

[Nubclear]

[QUOTE] Originally posted by Japher


Very cute Tass. Surely you don't wrestle the gun out of your enemies arms, shoot 'em in the knees, then give them back there gun!/QUOTE]

Again, we were at war with the Iraqi people? I thought......

[Giancarlo]

Arguing with Tass is like slamming your fist into a brick wall. I got a headache now too...

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
(as peacefully as possible).

Hmm......To destroy Iraqi property, well, that just isn't very peaceful is it?

[Dis]

I think its best the U.S. just withdraw all troops immediately and let the U.N. take the heat for this.

There should be U.N. peacekeepers so everyone blames the U.N. for everything that goes wrong, not the U.S.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Acknowledging Freedom of Expression comes secondary to preserving public order in Iraq right now, since the fighting isn't over, the whereabouts of Hussein are unknown and there is near-anarchy. Until the infrastructure is there to allow such expression without the risk of violence, I think it's understandable to break up such demonstrations (as peacefully as possible).

First post Boris has said I completely agree with...

Tass, quite contradicting yourself.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Fez
Arguing with Tass is like slamming your fist into a brick wall. I got a headache now too...

Yes, but at the end of the day......Your fist is the one thats bloody, and the brick wall is still standing

[Japher]

Again, we were at war with the Iraqi people? I thought......

OK Tass why don't you go over there and point out who are THE PEOPLE and who are SADDAM LOYALSISTS, PO'd ARMY LEFTOVERS, TERRORISTS, etc...

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Read his whole post, you POS. Don't take my words out of context.

I did.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000


Yes, but at the end of the day......Your fist is the one thats bloody, and the brick wall is still standing

Until I blasted a hole in it with some dynamite. Your argument has been blown to bits...

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Japher


OK Tass why don't you go over there and point out who are THE PEOPLE and who are SADDAM LOYALSISTS, PO'd ARMY LEFTOVERS, TERRORISTS, etc...

Terrorist is relative (Bin Laden wasn't a terrorist till he turned on us), POd army leftovers.......Ill give you that.

But I highly doubt they were all army leftovers. And Saddam loyalists are part of the "people" too, just as Clinton or Bush or Mao or Stalin or Hitler or anyleadernamehere loyalists are.

Freedom of Opinion.

[Japher]

Naw, Fez, a stiff wind should blow it over... Tass only addressed the argument I had listed as "Bad Argument" and completely ignored the "Good Argument".

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Fez


Until I blasted a hole in it with some dynamite. Your argument has been blown to bits...

But your hand is still the bloody one, Fez In fact, you've simply helped me spread the truth elsewhere with your "dynamite

[Japher]

And, just as in labor union deals, we'll give them all a 6 week cooling down period before discussions are held. A party is not a good way to cool down.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000


But your hand is still the bloody one, Fez In fact, you've simply helped me spread the truth elsewhere with your "dynamite

You are a liar... a complusive liar. If you want to play Iraqi Information Minister, you did a very good job at it. Mr. Sahaf.

[Nubclear]

OK then:

Originally posted by Japher
We've got a spitting match here!!!

Good Argument:
IMO after all the problems in Bagdad due to large parties that turned into riots that then lead to Iraq hatred of the US because everything was getting trashed - breaking up the party was a good idea. Good preventative measueres.

And tell the Iraqis (intentionally or not) that "You can't have freedom of expression QUITE YET......."? Would that not cause resentment?

It was fifty people......We should've just allowed it to run its course.