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Originally posted by Darius871
I've read the OT long enough to know when not to dignify someone with response, but I can't help it. Someone has to tell him the truth for once in his life.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Even the silliest types will start to think they are right if never confronted. BTW, it sounds like you implicitly agree with my characterization.
Originally posted by Darius871
Anyone who draws that conclusion based on this document alone is an idiot.
What other documentation is there? There is only speculation.. if there are other suggestive facts then I'd like to see them.
Originally posted by Darius871
You're hypocritically generalizing by thinking we all draw any major conclusions from this.
I'm stating what the author tried to get across by writing this article. That's the conclusion that was probably intended, if only subtlely.
I contend that we are both Atheists. I just believe in one fewer god then you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you'll understand why I dismiss yours.
What other documentation is there? There is only speculation.. if there are other suggestive facts then I'd like to see them.
I'm stating what the author tried to get across by writing this article. That's the conclusion that was probably intended, if only subtlely.
You're making the classic "Ramo mistake" of finding a certain argument in the "pro" to have flaws, be circumstantial, etc. And then, saying that this is definitive proof of the "con".
The onus of proof is on the pro-war crowd, since Bush is the guy saying that Saddam is linked to Al-Qaeda. My stance is similar to atheism; I can't prove that there aren't any links between them (or any God), because proving something doesn't exist is next to impossible, save examples like proving there is no ball in a certain box.
I contend that we are both Atheists. I just believe in one fewer god then you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you'll understand why I dismiss yours.
Originally posted by kmad
The onus of proof is on the pro-war crowd, since Bush is the guy saying that Saddam is linked to Al-Qaeda. My stance is similar to atheism; I can't prove that there aren't any links between them (or any God), because proving something doesn't exist is next to impossible, save examples like proving there is no ball in a certain box.
1. The onus of proof is on them if they make a definitive assertion.
2. Lack of defnitive proof is not proof of the contrary. You make a "Ramo flaw" if you say otherwise.
3. This is very different from an atheism debate. We are talking about the real world. About organizations which choose secrecy.
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