Military Strengths

[Mr. President]

Originally posted by ColdWizard
and to think, the pitiful United States Navy has merely 27 cruisers and 57 destroyers

I drastically cut Dakmoristan's navy and air force.

[Giovanni Wine]

Originally posted by Mr. President




I drastically cut Dakmoristan's navy and air force.

same here

[Drogue]

Great idea Jack. If I become Mod, I will top that too. SO we have a sign up and stats thread for alliances, initiatives and military

[ColdWizard]

I won't be cutting back Eternal Cold's naval numbers since they were based on the USN info I had available at the time, though I may need to adjust support ship numbers

[ColdWizard]

for reference purposes, I'll share the ship info I've gleaned from the Navy's website (I think it's accurate for active duty ships, though some of the SSBNs are undergoing conversion to SSGNs)

CV	3	Carrier
CVN	9	Carrier, Nuclear
CG	27	Cruiser, Guided-missile
DDG	35	Destroyer, Guided-missile
DD	22	Destroyer
FFG	35	Frigate, Guided-missile
PC	13	Patrol Craft Coastal
MHC	12	Coastal Mine Hunters
MCM	14	Mine Countermeasure Ships
SSN	53	Submarine, Attack, Nuclear
SSBN	18	Submarine, Ballistic Missile, Nuclear
AE	1	Ammunition Ship
ARS	4	Rescue and Salvage
AS	2	Submarine Tenders
AOE	6	Fast Combat Support Ships
LHD/LHA	12	Amphibious Assault Ship
LCC	2	Amphibious Command Ship
LPD	16	Amphibious Transport Dock
AGF	2	Command Ship
LSD	15	Landing Ship, Dock

the navy also has some ships that are manned or partially manned by civilians and have not been included in the above list.


Additional note: The Navy website lists the number of aircraft at 4000+ but I've yet to find a breakdown of these numbers.

[Urban Ranger]

Noosland military #1

Noosland population: 657 million
GDP per capita: USD17,000
Defense budget: 5% GDP = USD558,450 billion

The squad is the basic unit for infantry and marine. A squad is composed of ten soldiers with standard combat gear (shown below). The composition of a squad:

Leader
Medic
Engineer
Comm. Officer
Heavy weaponeer
5 standard soldiers

The leader is one with most overall training and/or combat experience in the squad. He directs the squad in actual combat. The medic is a standard soldier with paramedic training and additional medical equipment and supplies. The engineer has training in battlefield demolition and construction of hasty covers. The communication officer is charged with communicating with the squad's unit. The heavy weaponeer has additional training in firing and maintaining the squad's light machine gun.

Standard combat gear
----------------------------
GLATIIS (Global location and total information interlink system)
6.5mm assault rifle
Night vision goggles
Infrared googles
Side arm
Large knife
Emergency survival kit
Granades
Miscellaneous items

Total weight: ~12kg

Each squad is issued 2 Shooting Stars (man portable anti-air missile launchers, each with 4 missiles) and 5 Roman Candles (man portable antitank missiles). Each squad has 1 A3A armoured personnel carrier with a 30mm chain gun and 2 Roamers (armoured car, similar to a Hummer).

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Drogue
Really? I suppose the US doesn't need that large a navy, with technology being more missile and airborne, but I thought it was bigger than that In that case, I think most of us should reduce our navy size.

You forgot that:

1. Carriers are a lot more expensive than they seem, because you need to include the airwings.

2. US forces are the most expensive in the world, both in terms of production and maintenance. Soviet/Russian equipment of comparable capabilities (at least on paper) is way, way, cheaper. Even British/Franch/German equipment is cheaper.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Giovanni Wine
Pilots: 1,500,000
Fighters (C-34W): 1'800
Fighter/bombers (CB-12W): 1'250
Ground-Attack Aircraft (CAT-23W): 570
Heavy Bombers(BP-78W): 320
Helicopters (E-23W): 1'600
Slealth Bombers (BS-45W): 73

*Scratches head*

Why do you need so many pilots?

Originally posted by Giovanni Wine
Sailors: 2'300'000
Air Craft Carriers: 16
Battleships: 32
Cruisers: 30
Destroyers: 96
Missile Frigates: 120
Missile Subs: 42
Attack Subs: 35

Holy Thor, Lord of Asgard! How did you get all these?

I saw Akiria has 10,000 ICBM's, that's also

[Jack_www]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


*Scratches head*

Why do you need so many pilots?

I think that is total personal. It includes Pilots , ground crews, guards at the airbasese ect.

[Giovanni Wine]

Well, as Jackson said, under the voice "pilot" (as well as the voice "sailor") I intended all non-civilian personal working for the AF (or the Navy).

As for the Navy, now that I compare the US one with my own, and cosidering the I'm country 3x times bigger than the US that "devotes most of its attentions to Defence" and that has a Powerhouse economy, maybe it is not that much overrated.

Although, since you seem to know much more about military stuff than me (as frankly I do not really know anything) maybe you could suggest me a more believable statistic

Saluti

[Drogue]

Likewise. Although I thought, how much does an ICBM cost? I have so much money floating around in my military budget for eqipment, even at 1 Billion USD a piece I could easily afford 10,000. Besides, Akiria does not believe in large manpower, but in technological superiority. Thus most of Akiria's weaponry and defence is automated, and as such I have massive stocks of missiles. It is a primary weapon to us. How much does an ICBM cost BTW? I know cruise missiles are about 1.2 Million USD a piece (according to the BBC).

[Mr. President]

Don't feel bad, Giovanni, at least you're trying to be reasonable.

[ColdWizard]

The Minuteman III ICBM has a unit cost $7 million according to the USAF website. I didn't see maintenance cost listed anywhere.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Giovanni Wine
As for the Navy, now that I compare the US one with my own, and cosidering the I'm country 3x times bigger than the US that "devotes most of its attentions to Defence" and that has a Powerhouse economy, maybe it is not that much overrated.

Although, since you seem to know much more about military stuff than me (as frankly I do not really know anything) maybe you could suggest me a more believable statistic

How big is your defense spending? I suppose "Regional Powerhouse" puts your GDP per capita just a shade below the US. So say maybe ~USD25,000?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by ColdWizard
The Minuteman III ICBM has a unit cost $7 million according to the USAF website. I didn't see maintenance cost listed anywhere.

That's just the missile itself though. There's also the warhead, which I presume is a MIRV with nuclear weapons. [What good is an ICBM without nuclear warheads?] So with 10,000 ICBM's you are looking at at least 30,000 nuclear warheads that all needed to be maintained and guarded very carefully.