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  • #16
    Originally posted by DarkCloud
    Andemagne- just use my formula to determine how much money yous pend on military expenditures and you'll be all right
    what formula?
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    • #17
      Originally posted by DarkCloud
      Each person in Iguana Fire makes an average of 100,000í a year... and at 10% tax rate, each pays 10,000í in taxes; therefore the government earns 240,000,000,000í a year.
      This formula.

      Ah ha. I didn't see it before
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      • #18
        Some of you people are warmongers Even the PRC, with 1.2 billion people, has an army of 4 million strong.
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        • #19
          What does the PRC need a huge army for anyway? They'd just be a drain on the economy.

          Anyway, the Centralis population figure should be updated, as it's now 305 million.

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          • #20
            Federation of Eation
            Population: 260 Million

            Army
            --------------------
            Troops: 10.24 million
            Marines: 1,050,000
            Paratroopers: 700,000
            Spec/Ops: 43,750
            Tanks(Abram M1A2 tank): 142,500
            Moblie Anti Aircraft missle jeeps: 11,000
            APC: 300,000
            Self propelled Artillery: 20,000
            Rocket Artillery: 10,500
            Jeeps and other support trucks: 350,750

            Airforce:
            -----------------------
            Fighters: 9,000
            Fighter/bombers: 5,500
            Ground-Attack Aircraft: 3,200
            Heavy Bombers(B-52): 430
            Attack Helicopters: 1,750
            Trasport Helicopters: 500
            Rescue Helicopters: 1,000
            Slealth Bombers: 40
            Air Transport Planes: 300
            Air Fuel Tankers:300 (able to refuel planes in flight)
            Command and Controll planes(with Radar, ect.): 160
            Gun Planes(artillery and other guns): 90


            Navy:
            ----------------------
            Air Craft Carriers: 21
            Cruisers: 60
            Destroyers: 100
            Missile Frigates: 500
            Missile Subs: 130
            (Nuclear Missle) Subs: 40
            Attack Subs: 120
            Transport ships: 8,200
            Gun boats(mainly used close to coast and rivers): 300
            Coast Guard Patroll boats: 3,500
            (Note all subs and carriers are powered by nuclear power)


            Nuclear Forces:
            ---------------------
            Nuclear Weapons: 500 ICBMs
            Tatical Nuclear Weapons(Used by Army): 120
            Nuclear Missles on Missle Subs: 160

            Special Notes:
            The total Buget for The Federation of Eation is 6.4 trillion Credits. The Defense buget is 25% of this and is 1.615 trillion Dollars, 149 billion of which goes toward R and D in millitary technology. The Draft is only used when nation is at war and dire need of troops. Other wise the millitary is voluntary and is always looking for new recuits.
            Last edited by Nimitz; February 25, 2003, 14:25.
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            • #21
              The Empire of Drunken Macaque:
              A large mob of drunken uni students.

              (due to repeatedly slashing the military budget)
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              • #22
                Nimitz you forgot to take out the name of my nation and put in your in the Special Note section. I see that many are copying my format of posting miltary stats.
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                • #23
                  Why do so many countries have hundreds of ICBMs? The US has something like 1200, but none of us has the economic strength nor the need for that.
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                  • #24
                    We keep them for a deterent against other nations using them on us. Besides we only have 200 ICBMs, and have a population of 200 million, and a defense buget of over 300 billion, I think we can afford them. Allthough they are mostly keep around because our leaders just like the power the represent and like to have the power of being able to destroy an entire nation with the single order, allthough it will never be given.
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                    • #25
                      Breakdown of naval forces

                      Command ships: 3
                      Heavy missile cruisers: 7
                      Light missile cruisers: 17
                      AEGIS anti-missile cruisers: 13
                      Missile destroyers: 25
                      ASW destroyers: 59
                      AEGIS anti-missile destroyers: 17
                      Missile frigates: 55
                      Frigates: 75
                      AEGIS anti-missile frigates: 29
                      Escorts: 97
                      Missile Boats: 173
                      Coastal patrol crafts: 335
                      Hydrofoils and hovercrafts: 753
                      Amphibious assault transports: 237

                      Diesel attack boats: 339
                      Nuclear attack boats: 33
                      Nuclear missile boats: 9

                      Experimental Heavy Cruiser Paris Commune

                      Non-combat vessels (including tugs, transports, tankers): not counted
                      Last edited by Urban Ranger; February 25, 2003, 00:22.
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                      • #26
                        Nimitz you forgot to take out the name of my nation and put in your in the Special Note section. I see that many are copying my format of posting miltary stats.
                        He just doubled all your stats

                        Some of your nations have far too much army
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DarkCloud

                          He just doubled all your stats

                          Some of your nations have far too much army
                          Acuatlly it is 10 times the amount of troops I have. Not dubled.
                          Does anyone think my stats are unrealistic?
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                          • #28
                            I've changed the stats some are doubled, some are other, and one 10X and I've been building my military from the start and once prepared for war with an unknown threat.
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                            • #29
                              Acuatlly it is 10 times the amount of troops I have. Not dubled.
                              Does anyone think my stats are unrealistic?
                              Somehow I think that both your and Nimitz are a bit overpriced... for example- the cost of just maintaining 1 soldier in the US is at least 40K a year for current salaries- plus at least another 20-40K for supplies (yearly) and weapons servicing.

                              Plus a donation of 100 dollars per soldier to the veterans fund...

                              and then equipment costs A LOT OF MONEY

                              plus the sheer expense of R&D... although I noticed you took that into consideration

                              Frankly, I think that it would probably be best if you both scaled back a bit

                              You don't have to, but that's just my suggestion, even if you are warmongers- because people need food producers, and if too many people are in the military there is no economy, etc.

                              ...Just my views
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                              • #30
                                UPDATED IGUANA FIRE STATS-

                                Iguana Fire
                                Population: 24 Million

                                Troops.... 15,000
                                Army Troops… 9,000
                                Naval Enlistees…150 (302)
                                Airmen… 4,000 (2,400)

                                Marines... 2,000

                                Coast Guard… 800

                                Police Force… 4,100
                                Civilian Police… 3,750
                                Military Police… 350

                                Spec/Ops... 310
                                Navy Elites… 40
                                Army Elites (Iguaz)… 160
                                Spies… 60
                                I-Corps…50

                                Vehicles…28
                                Tanks.... 3
                                Jeeps…10
                                Transport Cars… 15

                                Airplanes... 35
                                Fighters…. 20
                                (Iguana A-17
                                Iguana Experimental Class C- 3)
                                Bombers… 10
                                (Alligator)
                                Stealth… 5
                                (Chameleon)

                                Navy… 5
                                Gunboats… 4
                                (Gecko Class)
                                Transports… 1
                                (Class A)

                                Chemical Warheads... 7

                                Summation
                                Iguana Fire's military is vastly underfunded, receiving 5% of the year's budget of 240 billion í... or an average of 12 billion a year; vastly increased from last year’s incomes of 600 million a year. This is sufficient to support the existing structures and expand slightly.

                                Recently, a new resolution to increase the military might of Iguana Fire was passed- raising the military’s funding from 0.5% a year to 5% a year. Nevertheless, the military is still underfunded.

                                Also recently, Iguana Fire’s Emperor, His Excellency Komnenus IV has declared that Iguana Fire increase production of Chemical Warheads. Currently Iguana Fire ramps out 3 Chemical Warheads a year; but is considering increasing its capacity; government personnel seeking out bids from all the top corporations.

                                There are on a gunboat- roughly 5-35 positions on a Gecko-Class Gunboat; and on a transport there are about 10-100 positions on a Class A Transport. Therefore; the Navy, needing twice the number of members to man the ships to serve them and store them; requires double the amount needed for any one gunboat.
                                Thereby making the calculation for Naval Enlistees. The number of support personnel is in brackets.

                                The I-Corps are Iguana Fire’s elite troops; trained to blend in with the surrounding populations and carry secret chemical and Biological weapons on their person; ready to unleash them in times of war. They are also well trained in the arts of making their own chemical and biological weapons as well as being trained in four forms of personal combat.

                                Monentary Summation
                                Each person in Iguana Fire makes an average of 100,000í a year... and at 10% tax rate, each pays 10,000í in taxes; therefore the government earns 240,000,000,000í a year.

                                í= the Igua (Iguana Fire's National Monentary Unit)
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