Military Strengths

[Archaic]

1900 is a *VERY* different era Sheep, before military aircraft, and that accounts for a lot. No country could afford to support something of that size now, simply because of the level of tech they'd also have to support.

I dispute what you do not because it's you who are doing it Sheep, but because what you do is WRONG. A lot of other people here voiced the same objections, and you refused to listen to them either. Now read the Military thread GT posted earlier, shut up, and admit that you're wrong.

[Mr. President]

By my estimations the total of those new numbers is somewhat higher than the total armed forces of North America.

Edit: Spelling and whatnot.

[Sheep]

But its like 5 nations.

[Archaic]

And each of those nations has more power than they can possibily support.

[Sheep]

Not if you take into account their new population sizes, the level of technology and the fact that all my economies are going up, and some lucratice trade deals with civfanatica nations.

[Mr. President]

*sigh* I had a feeling back when DarkCloud started this military thread that it wasn't going to work out, simply because no-one will accept any form of criticism and is always trying to one-up everyone else.

[Archaic]

Originally posted by Sheep
Not if you take into account their new population sizes, the level of technology and the fact that all my economies are going up, and some lucratice trade deals with civfanatica nations.

Bull****. New Sheepsta is a Basket Case, and the others are bad themselves. Their populations, with the exception of New Griffith, are less than half the size of mine. And you can't make lucrative trade deals when you have nothing to trade with.

[Sheep]

Careful there my friend. You don;t make any sense. I don;t really care what you think Archaic. You are a selfish idiot, and I'm suprised nobody has told you to rack off yet.

[Archaic]

Originally posted by Sheep
Careful there my friend. You don;t make any sense. I don;t really care what you think Archaic. You are a selfish idiot, and I'm suprised nobody has told you to rack off yet.

Alecrast's pop is over 700 million. New Griffith has under 400 million, New Sheepsta has under 330 million. Furthermore, like I said, New Sheepsta's economy is rated as a Basket Case. Look at the site. "Economy: Basket Case". New Griffith has "Economy: Reasonable", and that's your best one. Reasonable is below "Average" BTW.

You seem to think people are selfish idiots if they don't "let you have fun". Of course, if you weren't trying to have fun by godmodding and making impossible claims to apparently try to "win", then we wouldn't be preventing you from "having fun", would we?

[Drogue]

Archaic: You also have no tax. How would you pay for the army? Volantary donations? I agree Sheep's is overstated, and with your posts on the subject, but that struck me a while ago. Any thoughts?

[Whaleboy]

Forgive my inexperience with this, I would like to ask the economists among us what is a reasonable level of military spending per capita, numbers of troops as a percentage of the population, and research/development as a percentage of GDP?

Thanks!

[Archaic]

Originally posted by Drogue
Archaic: You also have no tax. How would you pay for the army? Volantary donations? I agree Sheep's is overstated, and with your posts on the subject, but that struck me a while ago. Any thoughts?

No income tax. We do have other taxation (A Goods and Services tax, or as you might know it, a Value Added Tax or VAT), though that's pretty much besides the point here except where the Foreign Legion is concerned, it being the only Alecraft force of any size to get the majority of its funding from the government. The Alecrast armed forces, including its navies and air force, are really somewhat "private armies" raised by the regional Dukes and Duchesses, various business concerns such as Nukes4U, and several of the labour unions (Such as the Union of Bikers and Truckers, which effectivly "owns" the MadBoyz Batallion. It's President it should be noted, currently sits on the Council as Minister for Transport and Regional Services), as well as the Monarch, out of their own pockets through the incomes they make with their business concerns, which work together out of interests of national cohesion and security. All the men, including those in the reserves, get paid quite handsomely for their services. And so they're not "dead weight", the Alecrast armed forces are frequently "loaned out" to other liberal and/or capitalistic nations (As a rule not to Dictators unless their citizens have both full civil and economic rights, such as with Bulbagarden) for defence, which has both given the forces field training that money simply cannot buy, and gives them a steady income that gets reinvested straight back into them.

[Whaleboy]

Upon reading some of the posts, we have to concur that Sheeps armed forces do seem somewhat overstates. I dont know what is a reasonable level for troops (see my previous post), but I'm sure it could be down to an "adminstrative error" on the part of Sheep, that can be easily corrected, like the previous Marijuanian government with the *cough* overstated space programme.

How about it Sheep?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Sheep
I beg to differ. and I am sure others will also.

If you could come up with a plausible explanation of your military budget in terms of your national economy, I'll accept. Right now, 125 AEGIS cruisers is an impossible number.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by elijah
Forgive my inexperience with this, I would like to ask the economists among us what is a reasonable level of military spending per capita, numbers of troops as a percentage of the population, and research/development as a percentage of GDP?

Thanks!

I suppose it's largely dependent, as one of the countries has (had?) the defense budget at 59% of the total budget. To me, it's a bit excessive, but hey, that's a personal choice.