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  • #46
    Just wondering- will any of those propositions be added as possible issues to be voted on by the nations? or are they as useless as the "technical" issues taht you oppose?
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    • #47
      also- guardian- a good proposal idea might be to show the rankings of Regions (for example: the region with the best weather, etc.) of regions with larger than 25 nations! for the UN) So that regions could be ranked like nations?

      But just wondering- would you consider this a "technical issue"
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      • #48
        Originally posted by DarkCloud
        Just wondering- will any of those propositions be added as possible issues to be voted on by the nations? or are they as useless as the "technical" issues that you oppose?
        Just wondering - when you vote in elections (assuming you do vote, otherwise consider this a hypothetical question) do you consider what the various candidates stand for and compare this to what you believe is right? I mean, do you vote for someone you think will at least try to do the "right" thing, or do you just vote for whomever has achieved things in the past - regardless of what they have achieved and how they went about it?

        No, I haven't achieved all that much as a delegate so far. None of the proposals I've supported have actually made it to even become resolutions, while several resolutions I've opposed have passed with overwhelming majority.
        -But at least I stick up for what I believe is right and don't just go with the flow.


        Originally posted by DarkCloud
        also- guardian- a good proposal idea might be to show the rankings of Regions (for example: the region with the best weather, etc.) of regions with larger than 25 nations! for the UN) So that regions could be ranked like nations?

        But just wondering- would you consider this a "technical issue"

        I think you know the answer to that one.

        That doesn't mean it's not a good idea though, only that the UN is not the place for it.
        You can post a poll in the technical forum if you want people to vote on it.
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        • #49
          Just wondering - when you vote in elections (assuming you do vote, otherwise consider this a hypothetical question) do you consider what the various candidates stand for and compare this to what you believe is right? I mean, do you vote for someone you think will at least try to do the "right" thing, or do you just vote for whomever has achieved things in the past - regardless of what they have achieved and how they went about it?
          I vote for whatever they stand for; but focus on what they achieved. I could care little about how they achieved it as long as I support the end result.

          I don't care if they supported a good thing for the wrong reasons.


          No, I haven't achieved all that much as a delegate so far. None of the proposals I've supported have actually made it to even become resolutions, while several resolutions I've opposed have passed with overwhelming majority.
          -But at least I stick up for what I believe is right and don't just go with the flow.
          Ok. But just what can the UN do?
          What are its proposals supposed to do?

          Will it ever be able to make a new issue for the game?

          or is it only for Role Playing... Perhaps I misunderstand the purpose of the UN and therein lies our conflict?


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          Is this the type of resolution that you would support?
          (and yes, I saw the ones you seconded, but just want to make certain that I understand your stance)

          Subsidies for Education
          A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.


          Category: Social Justice Strength: Strong Proposed by: Frigben
          Description: Those who are seeking an education may find it difficult at times. This proposal suggests that all governments of UN member countries do the following:
          1. Provide scholarships for those who excel in their early education, of a sum not less than $500.
          2. Provide scholarships for those who excel in their early education, with a yearly income less than $10,0000, of a sum not less than $750.
          This resolution will greatly improve the standard of education and living in all UN members, thereby leading to more prosperous nations.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by DarkCloud

            I vote for whatever they stand for; but focus on what they achieved. I could care little about how they achieved it as long as I support the end result.

            I don't care if they supported a good thing for the wrong reasons.
            I see. Up to a certain point I agree.


            Ok. But just what can the UN do?
            What are its proposals supposed to do?

            Will it ever be able to make a new issue for the game?

            or is it only for Role Playing... Perhaps I misunderstand the purpose of the UN and therein lies our conflict?
            Possibly.

            Actually, the UN resolutions are kind of like a different type of issues. We get to discuss them and vote over them in the UN, and if they're passed there, then they are immediately implemented in all UN member nations without further issues on the national level.


            Is this the type of resolution that you would support?
            Yes, it is.
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            • #51
              What would the implementation do? How does it affect the game? For example: what did the no-slaves resolution really change.
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              Just an idea for a UN-resolution that we could develop:

              That the UN elect a secretary-general to clean up the UN forum and delete all technical issues that the UN cannot possibly enforce.

              Reasons for our election
              -So that the more relevant issues can be voted on; and seconded much faster.
              -That the UN can become more relevant

              etc.

              How about developing this proposal idea?



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              thank you. I now udnerstand more about this UN-thing
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              • #52
                *BUMP*

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by DarkCloud
                  What would the implementation do? How does it affect the game? For example: what did the no-slaves resolution really change.
                  I believe the actual in-game effect of that particular resolution was increased civil rights in all UN member nations.

                  Just an idea for a UN-resolution that we could develop:

                  That the UN elect a secretary-general to clean up the UN forum and delete all technical issues that the UN cannot possibly enforce.

                  Reasons for our election
                  -So that the more relevant issues can be voted on; and seconded much faster.
                  -That the UN can become more relevant

                  etc.

                  How about developing this proposal idea?
                  It's a good idea, but it's also kind of... umm... technical...

                  Besides, the UN has already passed a resolution calling for the election of a secretary general.

                  thank you. I now understand more about this UN-thing
                  Glad to hear it.
                  Hopefully, we can get it to work some day...
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                  • #54
                    ...The UN really needs less membernations to vote on a thing Nothing can achieve quorum nowadays

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                    Strangely enough, I didn't even notice the most recent issue that was voted in- it seemed to have been a 24 hr vote?

                    Or was it just a decision by the maker of the game? if it was, i didnt notice anything- unless the % was decreased to 15% from 20% ?
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                    • #55
                      Seems pretty clever
                      I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

                      Asher on molly bloom

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                      • #56
                        *BUMP* We would like to ask our regional delegate what his stance is on this:



                        We suggest that, at the very least, we offer to accept refugees from Naziland persecution, although apparently we will need to place them in quarantine for a while at least...

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                        • #57
                          Also, we would like to ask for our delegate's opinion on this:



                          Should we agree to support this endeavour?

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                          • #58
                            I will look into these matters and get back to you as soon as possible.

                            (One of the links provided doesn't seem to be working at the moment, but I am assured that "this is a temporary problem that should be fixed within 48 hours".)
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                            • #59
                              The first one doenst work... but then again, I've never been able to view their forums for some reason?
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                              • #60
                                I just discovered that the first link works if you remove the "pin=71858022" in the end.

                                I.e. http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8195

                                I agree that we should at the very least offer to accept refugees. I also think some trade sanctions would be in order. -But then again, Guardinia is already not trading with Naziland...
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