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    Office of the UN Delegate

    Ladies and gentlemen, the office of the new UN delegate is officially opened. Feel free to drop by at any time to discuss UN matters. Also, if you'd like to open a thread to discuss a particular issue, you can let the thread subject begin with "UN:" to indicate that you'd like the delegate's attention on this one.

    For instance, a thread to discuss a proposed resolution to ban the death penalty could be called "UN: Proposal to ban the death penalty".

    Discussions are open for everybody, but if we vote on something, the voting will be reserved for UN members. I propose to handle this by having each nation send in their votes by telegram on the NationStates site, where their UN membership can be easily verified.
    "Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
    -- Saddam Hussein
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    I'd like to add that, as the UN delegate, I will respect and loyally carry out any democratic decision made by the people of our region. This entails that - regardless of my personal opinion - I will vote according to what we have decided. This applies to both approval of proposals and the actual voting on a resolution.

    When the UN Delegate votes on a resolution, he or she gets an extra vote for each endorsement held at the time of voting. In addition, each one of those UN members also get to vote once for themselves. This means that, as a large region with many UN members, we can pack an extra punch if we work together and make decisions in a democratic fashion.

    Of course, when voting on resolutions, individual UN member is free to vote as they please, but the delegate will vote according to the regional decision.

    So, if you oppose a resolution but the regional vote goes in favor of it, you're free to vote against the resolution in the UN, but the regional delegate will vote in favor of it. (Thus, if you endorsed the delegate, you will in effect be voting both for and against this one.) If, on the other hand, you're in favor of a resolution and we have decided that the delegate is to vote in favor, then - if you endorse the delegate - you will effectively be putting in two votes in favor of the resolution. (Your own vote plus the extra vote you've given to the delegate.)
    "Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
    -- Saddam Hussein

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    • #3
      Some of us in the region would like to know how on earth we can get INTO the U.N. so that we might (for instance...) endorse yourself and give our region a larger say

      Any chance you raise a stink about the fact that none of us seem to be able to complete the application process to the U.N.? (the difficulty being that none of us get the e-mails... and it definately has nothing to do with our ISP's thinking the e-mails are spam ).

      Just a suggestion
      Long-time poster on Apolyton and WePlayCiv
      Consul of Apolyton from the 1st Civ3 Inter-Site Democracy Game (ISDG)
      7th President of Apolyton in the 1st Civ3 Democracy Game

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      • #4
        Your suggestion is duly noted, and will be acted upon immediately.

        I had a problem myself the first time I tried to join. Got the e-mail with the link, but it only took me to my nation's description...

        Then I got a second e-mail a few hours later - which actually worked...

        Anyway, I am not aware of any possible explanation to the problem you describe, but I shall certainly bring it to the attention of those who may be in a position to find out.
        "Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
        -- Saddam Hussein

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Arnelos
          (the difficulty being that none of us get the e-mails... and it definately has nothing to do with our ISP's thinking the e-mails are spam ).
          If it's hotmail you're using, it will. Mark nationstates.net as always being allowed in your options for hotmail or whatever other provider you might have, and it'll work.
          Veni Vidi Castravi Illegitimos

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          • #6
            In response to the suggestion from Arnelos, the following has been posted in the NationStates technical forum, where there was already a thread dedicated to this problem.

            I have recently been elected UN Delegate of Apolyton, and it has come to my attention that several nations in our region also have this problem.

            What actually happens is that they apply to join the UN, get the telegram saying they've been accepted, and then the e-mail never shows up. They believe it's not related to the known problem with spam filters at certain ISPs.
            So far, there has been no comment from any NationStates admin regarding this issue. Therefore, an e-mail has been sent to admin@nationstates.net providing a link to the thread in the technical forum and requesting that they check it out.

            Hopefully, this is a start...
            "Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
            -- Saddam Hussein

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Archaic
              If it's hotmail you're using, it will. Mark nationstates.net as always being allowed in your options for hotmail or whatever other provider you might have, and it'll work.
              Because many people who are using hotmail or even their own mail servers (which shouldn't block anything) have reported that they're not getting the confirmation email, I am somewhat skeptical of this claim. If anyone has managed to join the UN during the last week or so, I'd like to know about it.

              I'm not going to bother setting up a hotmail account unless I know for a fact that it's going to fix the problem.

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              • #8
                Don't know about hotmail, but it worked on yahoo...

                That's pretty much exactly two weeks ago now.
                "Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
                -- Saddam Hussein

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Archaic
                  If it's hotmail you're using, it will. Mark nationstates.net as always being allowed in your options for hotmail or whatever other provider you might have, and it'll work.
                  Nope, I even gave them an AOL e-mail addy... and there is almost no chance that AOL would block anything as spam

                  That didn't even work...

                  Since I'm not the only one having the problem, I assume the problem is on nationstates' side and not our various e-mail addy's...
                  Long-time poster on Apolyton and WePlayCiv
                  Consul of Apolyton from the 1st Civ3 Inter-Site Democracy Game (ISDG)
                  7th President of Apolyton in the 1st Civ3 Democracy Game

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                  • #10
                    I know for a fact that AOL blocks emails sent from the vB I run as being spam, so I fail to see how that problem might not be happening with nationstates.

                    The fact of the matter is simple. I tried 3 times to become a UN member using a hotmail address. None worked. I then went into my options, changed the junk mail filter settings so that any from nationstates.net would always be allowed, and 'lo and behold, it worked.
                    Veni Vidi Castravi Illegitimos

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                    • #11
                      The vote now being 14 to 11, the Free Republic of Greater Finland is once again our UN Delegate. If this is still the case on Monday, I will stand down and endorse Greater Finland.

                      Have a nice weekend all!
                      "Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
                      -- Saddam Hussein

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                      • #12
                        Archaic: did you join the UN during the past week, or earlier? If it's earlier, then I'm going to remain skeptical. But if someone else can report a successful recent joining of UN from hotmail addy, I'll sign up too. Anyone?

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                        • #13
                          Earlier, however I know several people who've joined in the past few days who've used exactly the method I just described.
                          Veni Vidi Castravi Illegitimos

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Archaic
                            Earlier, however I know several people who've joined in the past few days who've used exactly the method I just described.
                            I'll try it.
                            Long-time poster on Apolyton and WePlayCiv
                            Consul of Apolyton from the 1st Civ3 Inter-Site Democracy Game (ISDG)
                            7th President of Apolyton in the 1st Civ3 Democracy Game

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                            • #15
                              Didn't work for me. The bright side is that NationStates is down so often that I'm beginning not to give a damn.

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