Zoran desires trading partners

[ColdWizard]

Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
Would the Kingdom of eternal Cold be willing to supply in cheese to our retail industry in exchange for uranium?

there's been an adjustment in the Eternal Cold economy, resulting in a boom in "beef-based" agriculture (mmm... polar bear) and a slight shift away from cheese. perhaps a combination of these two excellent products for uranium?

[GeneralTacticus]

That sounds like a good deal. How much uranium would you like, and do you want it raw or enriched?

[ColdWizard]

enough for a small nuclear reactor and a small quantity for scientific research

[GeneralTacticus]

So, shall we say... five tons of enriched uranium? How much would you offer in return?

[Drogue]

I have some proposals for national delegates. The Free Nations of Centralis and Akiria have started a free trade agreement, to remove all tariffs between the two countries. Akiria is prepared to sign the same kind of deal with other nations. Who else will help efficiency, and promote cheaper prices for your people? Join us in free trade, and we will all prosper.

Members of Free Trade Agreement:
The Republic of Centralis
The Commonwealth of Akiria
The People's Republic of Sovietskii Soyuz (it's finally getting easier to spell )
The Kingdom of Eternal Cold
The Commonwealth of Alien Races
The Democratic States of Admaria
The Kingdom of Wine

Also, The Sovietskii Soyuz and Akiria have agreed to combine forces scientifically, in the name of a cure for cancer. Most diseases in the world have been identified. We have already discovered the entire genetic code for say, cancer, however we cannot cure such diseases! Why is this? Well, we are developing a new prototype medicine that can seek out and attack targetted foreign agents and actually regenerate damaged tissues and cells. Akiria has promised to supply all IT equipment needed for this venture, and will provide up to 25 billion Akiria Roses (about 12.5 billion Gold Coins IIRC, an awful lot of money ) worth of equipment and help for this venture, as well as much scientific support. This is a very costly venture, but one who's rewards are immeasureable. Who will join our countries in this most noble goal? Together, we can prosper, not only in money, but in life.

Participents of the Cure for Cancer Venture:
The People's Republic of Sovietskii Soyuz
The Commonwealth of Akiria
The Republic of Centralis
The Disputed Territories of The Mad Capitan
The Commonwealth of Alien Races
The Democratic States of Admaria
The Kingdom of Wine
The Federation of Redfern

Akiria also proposes an alliance. Any country that agrees never to start an unprovoked war, and that puts a priority on creating peace, and stopping violence, shall receive the full support of the Akirian military if they are the victim of an act of aggression. This offer is open to all members of Apolyton, whatever their other beliefs. Together we can ward of any attack the CFC, or any other nation, can launch.

Members of the Pacifist Alliance:
The Commonwealth of Akiria
The People's Republic of Sovietskii Soyuz
The Democratic States of Admaria

I hope as many nations as possible will join all 3 proposals, as the benefits to all will be huge.

[GeneralTacticus]

The Republic of Centralis wishes to assist the 'Cure for Cancer' venture in any way it can, and will also join the alliance. Our diplomats have suggested that it be called the 'Greater Apolytonian Defense Organization', or 'GADO' for short. They have proposed the following framework for the alliance:

1) All members should be required to contribute some military resources to joint command.

2) A council should be established representing all member nations; voting power would be based on the proportion of the alliance's forces contributed by each nation.

3) No nation may hold more then 25% of the votes in the council; any forces contributed beyond that are deemed irrelevant to the allocation of votes.

4) If any member nation comes under attack by outside forces and asks for help, all joint forces are to be mobilized to support them. Further support on the part of member nations is optional, but may be requested by a majority vote in council.

5) No member nation is permitted to take military action against another member, upon penalty of expulsion from the alliance. In cases in which the aggressor is not clear, all nations militarily involved will be suspended from their alliance priviliges and required to cease-fire until the council can come to a decision as to who was in the wrong, and act accordingly.

6) No member nation may initiate military action against a non-member, as above, unless this has been approved by a 75% majority vote in the alliance council, in which case all alliance forces are required to join in. In cases where the aggressor is unknown, alliance forces are to impose a cease-fire until a decision can be reached, as above.

7) Member nations may request alliance funding, materials, or technical expertise in any military or civilian research project they may conduct, but are obliged to make the fruits of said project available to all alliance members who contributed.

[ColdWizard]

Eternal Cold wishes to join the Free Trade Alliance, as it's already banned all tariffs as part of its economic policy.

[Drogue]

The Honourable Governor of Centralis: You are welcome to start an alliance to such an effect, however this is something slightly different. I support you're desire for peace, yet the promise of support from Akiria is a gesture to try to further peace. It is not subject to a council decision, and no other country is forced to help a country that is attacked (although it is requested). The only requirement is the support of peace. Akiria commends your attitude, and welcomes more initiatives to help the defense of Apolyton, however I would like the emphasis of Akiria's promise to be on peace, rather than defense.

[GeneralTacticus]

With all due respect, the Government of Centralis believes that without defense, there can be no peace; the best way of ensuring peace is to be strong enough that no-one is willing to attack you. As no nation on this world is powerful enough, on it's own, to defeat a large coalition of other nations, the only real solution is to establish a common defense.

[Drogue]

I concur that a common defense is good, but we are in danger of an arms race, whereby we all build deterrants as fast as possible. Akiria would prefer mutual disarmament to large deterrants. As such, while you are free to create an alliance for defensive purposes, Akiria will not join. We will provide defense to all countries that support peace, and that ask for it. These are the only two conditions. However we will not be bound to a councils decisions on who to defend, on how much we must donate, or on what research we fund and who it is available to.

[GeneralTacticus]

And yet the Commonwealth of Akiria is a member of the United Nations. Just how much difference is there between the UN and the proposed alliance? Indeed, the UN has more influence over Akiria than the alliance would, as you have far less influence within it and it has the power to legislate on more or less anything.

[Drogue]

I do, however, if the UN proposed to raise defense spending, Akiria would vote and argue against, and if it looked like ti would pass, Akiria would leave the UN. The UN is a fine insitution for promoting rights, or ecology, or many other things. However the people of Akiria feel safe, and do not wish to be told how to defend themselves. We will support peaceful nations, but will not be bound in our support of anyone whom a council decides worthy, and will not be bound on defense spending, for ourselves of for a joint project.

[GeneralTacticus]

I fear you may have misunderstood the terms of the alliance. You are not required to increase defense spending, nor to contribute funds to joint projects. It will be your choice what you contribute to the alliance; the more you contribute, the more influence you will have, but you are not required to make more than a token contribution, and you will not be required to contribute more, either.

[Drogue]

I see that, but to have influence I would need to contribute quite considerably. And not having influence on where my forces go is unacceptable to my people. They demand direct control over where my military attacks, if it attacks, and with how much it attacks. In a defensive alliance, such as the one you have suggested, I cannot promise that they will have that, and as such, I cannot sign such an agreement. It has my support in principle, as does any proposal to promote peace and defense.

[H Tower]

I fear for the region, I established this thread to promote trade among nations, and it has turned into an arms bazaar and a place to make military alliances. The only alliance we will ever need is that of the entire region together! Let us not work against each other, we should work with each other!