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  • #31
    and high heavens

    Population: 2856
    Political Freedoms: Outlawed
    Economy: Frightening
    Compulsory Military Service: Yes
    Space Program: Yes
    Defence: Priority
    Fundamentalist Religion: Yes
    Defensive Military Strength: 127
    Offensive Military Strength: 127
    GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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    • #32
      Azan

      Population: 74
      Political Freedoms: Unheard Of
      Economy: Good
      Compulsory Military Service: Yes
      Space Program: No
      Defence: Not Mentioned
      Fundamentalist Religion: No
      Defensive Military Strength: 2
      Offensive Military Strength: 5
      GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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      • #33
        jonchastan

        Population: 213
        Political Freedoms: Good
        Economy: Developing
        Compulsory Military Service: Yes
        Space Program: Yes
        Defence: Not Mentioned
        Fundamentalist Religion: No
        Defensive Military Strength: 7
        Offensive Military Strength: 4
        GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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        • #34
          How are those numbers determined? I couldn't find any of their rationale or methodology on the site.
          ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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          • #35
            Guardinia
            Population: 2809
            Political Freedoms: Some
            Economy: Strong
            Compulsory Military Service: Yes
            Space Program: Yes
            Defence: Not Mentioned
            Fundamentalist Religion: No
            Defensive Military Strength: 34
            Offensive Military Strength: 28
            GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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            • #36
              Ceroo
              Population: 2924
              Political Freedoms: Average
              Economy: Powerhouse
              Compulsory Military Service: Yes
              Space Program: Yes
              Defence: Not Mentioned
              Fundamentalist Religion: No
              Defensive Military Strength: 68
              Offensive Military Strength: 34
              GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Azazel
                I cannot, sadly, since my nation was deleted. What can I do? It had a big population.... Maybe I should start a new one, and multiply some factors?
                your nation was restarted for this role playing as Former Azan.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                  nm. looks crappy.
                  id say that based on the numbers it gives for noosland
                  GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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                  • #39
                    So Hive and High Heavens using these numbers can attack and effectively take on every nation mentioned and probably everybody elses second nation aswell ... i doubt it.

                    As UR says, its naff.
                    Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.

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                    • #40
                      no it uses the economy and what nationstates says is your priorities....

                      if you bene slecting issues that put dfence lower then you numbers will be lower..

                      Yes the hive nad high heavens are huge, but rightyl so...

                      but i thought this war was only agaisnt the hive, havent seen high heaven enter the role play yet !!
                      GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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                      • #41
                        Again, how does it use the economy and national priorities?

                        What are the multipliers? What is their methodology? How do they justify their results? Have they tried modelling real-world nations to see how their system works?

                        Without any of that, it's just another set of arbitrary numbers.
                        ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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                        • #42
                          It's very basic doubles and halves on a few selected factors by the looks of it
                          Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.

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                          • #43
                            i agree. but it is a start.. i fdotn have the rea lworld info to work out a spreadsheet, so til lsome one hee does, thes enumbers are probalb ythe closest we gonig to get...
                            GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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                            • #44
                              No, it's not a start. It's a pile of crap. When it ranks Auldoninna as being just behind the Hive (which is the biggest military power in the region and is over two and a half times bigger than Auldoninna in both population and economic strength), and twice as big as Centralis, which has similar size advantages and was quite high on the military spending list last time, then you know somebody's made a mistake.

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                              • #45
                                Exactly, when it told me that Auldoninna is at least twice as big as my other nation, which got 1/3 more population than them and has a 'Frightening' economy.
                                (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                                (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                                (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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