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  • #46
    Azan doesn't need your money.
    I do!
    I'm sick and tired of having to pay for things myself.
    It would be so much easier if you (being the members of the Apolyton Court) paid for everything for me.
    What do you lot think?
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    • #47
      umm simple anser no !!!!!
      GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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      • #48
        You people are so damn selfish!
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        • #49
          What is the actual point of the sovereignty discussion? Is it supposed to prevent nations being punished for things they do that are their own business, or is it intended to set up a framework for the Court or other groups to decide that whatever they don't like is international business and then punish the "offender"?

          -- Ramon de la Vega,
          Foreign Secretary
          Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost.

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          • #50
            i bleeive tha tis their aim ...
            GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Mr. President
              What is the actual point of the sovereignty discussion? Is it supposed to prevent nations being punished for things they do that are their own business, or is it intended to set up a framework for the Court or other groups to decide that whatever they don't like is international business and then punish the "offender"?

              -- Ramon de la Vega,
              Foreign Secretary
              I thought this would be the thread where the court desisions should be made and discussed.
              "There is no life without compassion"

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              • #52
                and limited to the court nominees only ?
                GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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                • #53
                  No, applicable to the region as a whole, and enforced by supporters of the court.
                  ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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                  • #54
                    Think of them as politicians, we are the electorate, we can shout our opinions all we want and if they don't listen then maybe in a couple of months re-elections could be held. Of course the final say on matters until then is upto the 5 now.
                    Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.

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                    • #55
                      court - holmes a court - tennis court - court her in my arms

                      what will the court do next ???
                      Gurka 17, People of the Valley
                      I am of the Horde.

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                      • #56
                        Lazerus. I agree 100%

                        Sometimes they'll listen to the complaints and modify their position, and sometimes they'll stick to their guns...
                        ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by joncha
                          No, applicable to the region as a whole, and enforced by supporters of the court.
                          that could make tihngs interesting ...
                          GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71

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                          • #58
                            Of course, should a nation refuse to acknowledge the rulings of the court, the court could always insist that said nation be ejected from the region (obviously in EXTREME circumstances only), and as a supporter of the court system and regional delegate Ceroo would be obliged to enforce the ruling.
                            -Sir T

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Basus
                              Assuming we are part of the Apolyton court Basus would like to start a discussion on the sovernty of states. This discussion could result in a ruling of the court.

                              We propose that all states registered in the apolyton region poses sovernty.

                              Sovernty is the inherent right to act as the nation pleases on his own territory. This right is absolute and as long as territorial boundries are not crossed then the nation can do as they please.

                              But as soon as a nation breaks his isolationist position and takes part in the international trade and politics his sovernty is limited to doining whatever they want own their own territory without creating concequenses for the international community. This interpretation has to be very strickt. Only consequenses that lead to a severe disruption of the international community of wich the nation is part will limit its sovernty.

                              an example: a nation that has signed several trade agrements and is trading on international level loses a bit of his sovernty when they start to dump goods on the market disrupting international trade. But only if dumping effects the markets linked to the trade agrements and international trade of that nation.
                              Their loss of sovernty will entail "economic sanctions" forced upon them by the community they disrupt.
                              These sanctions can never surpass the damage done by the disruption.
                              It is just a draft. As soon as nations participate on a international level certain basic rights fall into place. these basic rights will develop as the rollplay develops. Each ruling of the court will colour the basic rights. It's just a system.
                              It's just a draft so comments please
                              "There is no life without compassion"

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                              • #60


                                To each his own ! Live and let live etc
                                Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.

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