Status of the project

[The Joker]

Ah, ok. I thought it sounded a little extreme.

We didn't have any official meetings thes two weeks, although we did have a few unofficial 2 person meetings once in a while (when people met on ICQ).

However, I would like to have a meeting sometime soon. Anyone interested in finding a time where the most people can make it?

Apart from that we might just as well bring back our old set weekly meeting dates. Then people could just show up if they were available. What day of the week suits you guys best?

[VetLegion]

Nononono!

The project is not dead. Its summer and all, it is understandable that activity is pretty low. Although it is winter some places of the earth, most of us here are from Europe.

I would not say it is lack of interest here, it is other priorities. I just got back from seaside yesterday - and still I dont promise heaps of activity. I have some things to do, and right now I am not very eager to be sitting in my hot room, working on a computer (while the computer just heats the room up more ). I ll probably be available for a not-very-brain-consuming activities like chat later in the evenings. To be totally unspecific - I am here but what I will do about GGS I dont know

The nature of the project is such that no deadlines are going to speed it up, and no "posting for the sake of posting" will make it active.
I feel that it is better that people work at their conveniance, when they are "inspired" so to speak, then to make deadlines or equaly bad - to run over same topics over and over again.

Different people have different activity patterns, that is how it is. I think if everyone just contributes what they can we ll do ok.

[The Joker]

Did you have a good stay at the seaside, Vet? Welcome back!

Obviously you are right that the great weather that we experience a lot of around this time each year does decrease activity, since it is just better to be outside than sitting in front of your computer.

And I agree that deadlines are a purely bad thing. But deadlines were not what I suggested. I only suggested an unofficial partition of labour. So if someone couldn't really figure out what to do on the project this could help them. It was never intended as anything more.

[amjayee]

Welcome back, Elmo and Vet; I wish you both had nice vacations. I agree with Vet that it's just like that, people do (or don't do) things as they find time. I'm certain we will start being a little more active soon. Personally, I have less than two weeks of work left, then my school begins, and then I might perhaps have more time and enthusiasm to do some coding. Somehow programming for money eight hours per day reduces your enthusiasm to program on free time. And, of course the nice summer we have had here (one of the best for ages) has caused the fact that I have spent more time on the beach than programming ggs. But well, winter is usually so bad I'm certain I will prefer coding to being outside.

I will personally start activating myself more, I'm certain we will have great achievements this autumn.

[ElmoTheElk]

Come on! We are falling far behind again! I know you regularry browse these boards to see if someone has posted a new topic. And never replies... That not how we can improve things!

My computer was totally broken down some days and I see nothing actually happen since. I myself are not that active too, but we have to continue working. You can expect some new things from mee next week.

So start replying! Or am I wrong and have you programmed a fully working sperical map yet? I have you prove me wrong...

Elmo

[The Joker]

Tough words, Elmo.

And yet I agree with you. We have to work on this, or it will never get off the ground.

Right now people who used to be really active are anything but that. How come?

[ElmoTheElk]

I know these are tough words. But I feel like everybody wants to put some effort into ggs, yet nobody really does. Aperently, we all want to wait untill someone comes up with some good stuff, instead of taking the first instep.

I DO NOT BLAME ANYONE! This is totally on a voluteer basis, but I think this is not at all where we want to see ggs end. Am I not right?

B.t.w. I wa trying to make a new vesion of the Military/Combat Model (now version 0.1), but we seem to have pretty different opinions here. More about that later.

Sorry if it looked like I blame anyone of the team. I'd never do that.

Elmo

[Nath]

Perhaps there should be a minimum number of posts per week or something.

[The Joker]

I don't think that would be a very good idea. People decide their own level of involvement.

Right now we are in the sad position that everybody are pretty much waiting for someone else to present something great, which will start the process again.

But I am learning about economics every day, and I will make a new econ model when I feel I have learned "enough" to do so - some time this fall.

And as far as I know Amjayee is creating a 3D map right at this very moment. Of cause this will take some time. And I am afraid he is not recieving much help (am I wrong here?).

But when he does present something (anything) it should spark people's interest once more, and the members should gather.

Untill then I am afraid we will have to live with this little activity.

Of cause we, who are somewhat active (I do visit the boards several times a week, and post if there is something interesting, although I admit that I have not created any discussion lately) could do something about this.

The Design Doc still needs updating, and the sections in it needs to be elaborated. Doing so, and posting it on the boards should indeed create some activity.

[chrispie]

Yes I do still exist

Sorry for my complete lack of activity for months, time just seems to have escaped me for a while. I'm still reading the boards at least 3 or 4 times a week - so I'm pretty up-to-date with what's happening.

Hopefully I can find the time to contribute some more in the coming months, maybe even do some programming, maybe

Are the meetings still happening? I'll try and make the next one if they're still on Sundays?

[ElmoTheElk]

You are all right. We all browse the board pretty often, but don't have anything developed now, apart from the spherical map.

Guess we all have lost some interest in ggs, not that we want to forget about it, be we all seem to put ggs lower on priority.

I just hope I have more time and will to do some ggd work too. I can't really get myself working tough, which is not very promising.

See you later,
Elmo

[amjayee]

Yes, I have been working with the map, and no, I haven't had any help, though at this point it would be difficult for anyone to help. I'm not making very good progress, I have had trouble arranging my school things and have been a little frustrated for the lack of time, but I hope next week things will be settled. Also I check at the boards regularly, but haven't had anything to write.

[The Joker]

I think you are right.

We have not lost interest in GGS. We have just put it on lower priority. Which, of cause, is ok. It is just sad that we have all done so simultaneously.

I guess I do have time to contribute more than I do.

But the thing is that I don't really know what to do at this point. As I have said economy will wait untill later. What else is there? I could update and elaborate on the Design Doc, but there is a limit to how much I can do about that without anything else happening. I would really like to help Amjayee with the map, if there is anything design related that I can do (I can settle on some map characteristics for once).

Otherwise I am just not sure what there is for me to do. I can't program (at least nothing useful), and I am not at all any good at drawing stuff. I just design.

Put me to work, if you can! Please!

And I think a similar situation exists for some of you as well. Like you say, we all browse the boards, but mostly do not reply. Why not use that time (it can easily take 20 minutes, if you visit the OT as well) for something constructive in stead?

Like I said, what I think we lack is a plan.

[amjayee]

I guess Joker is right here, there are many design issues in the map etc. systems that need to be done, and that can be done by others. Perhaps as my next ggs job, I will make some preliminary specs for the map system I intend to make; then you others can issue the design things and get somethings sensible to do.

[The Joker]

I think that would be great, amjayee. If we get some design stuff done we (Elmo?) can start drawing some map graphics as well.

It would be a good way to put some life back into the project.