ELECTION - Minister of Defence

[child of Thor]

Sssssshhh! HuangShang, don't goad them like that or strangely we'll lose this vital poll Those hippies will get all motivated and leave their 'ass and grass' to vote us down

[Gilgamensch]

Still haven't decided yet.........

So I am still opened for 'suggestions'

Seriously, I think both could do a great job. Maybe I gonna through a coin????????

[Devil of Truth]

The world should stand united against oppressors of all kinds. For too long have we suffered under the tyranny of those who crave control and bloodshed for the sake of their own imperialistic ideals. We should do whatever we can to avoid unilateral action without diplomacy. Let’s not beat around the bush. Unite against war. Fight for peace. Before we all get crushed.

Vote IW.

Vote now. Vote often. Get cake.

[Gilgamensch]

Originally posted by Devil of Truth

Vote now. Vote often. Get cake.

Which cake?????????????

Is it a kind of bribe?

[Tamerlin]

No bribe, we at the APP are fighting against corruption and would not allow any attempt to corrupt a citizen in order to get his vote.

Before you decide Gilgamensch bear in mind most of us at the APP believe a war is unfortunately impossible to avoid at one time or another. We also believe war should be the last resort, as there are still lands to settle the time is not for war but for peaceful expansion and defense force building.

Vote Immortal Wombat...

[Gilgamensch]

That's gonna be a tough one........... 15 / 15.

We also believe war should be the last resort, as there are still lands to settle the time is not for war but for peaceful expansion and defense force building.

isn't offence the best defence

I am not a war monger, but sometimes it is better to go the rough line, as this slows the AI more down as the human. Plus you slow his growth as well.

There isn't so much space left anyway. We might have flex our muscles a bit, that we get some more elbow-room.

Another thing: No one can live in peace, if the evil neighbour doesn't agree.

I am not 'willing' to bribe our neighbours with 'my' gold, just to see them backstabing us a few turns later.

So if IW (/APP) can not come up with something convincing me, Turambar will get my vote.

PS: Still haven't voted.

[Tamerlin]

Difficult to imagine you had not made up your mind before your previous post.

Turambar and his War Party believe our nation should attack the Austrians now, we think we should expand first and declare war later. Either you agree with us, either you agree with Turambar's war party.

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by Gilgamensch
isn't offence the best defence

The maxims of the famous or infamous generals of our history must not be confused with strategy.

I am pretty sure Sun Tzu would have advised you not to engage in a war you are sure to lose.

[Locutus]

This election once again proves that elections are so much more interesting when there are at least 2 candidates running

[Turambar]

Turambar and his War Party believe our nation should attack the Austrians now

I've never said we should attack NOW at any point. Please find a quote before saying stuff like that. If my plan was to attack NOW then there would already of been an official poll about it.

We are not ready to attack anyone yet. We've got to finish the the settler off, get a new city settled then build up an army regardless of whether or not we want to attack. We're between to big civs and a large military is essential to surivival and expansion.

We will be going to war eventually whether we initiate it or not. And I'd rather be the attacker than the attacked. And add to this the fact that we're running out of room to grow, therefore if we don't take new land and cities at some point then we cannot grow much more. And no growth = us losing.

[child of Thor]

Originally posted by Gilgamensch
edit....

I am not a war monger, but sometimes it is better to go the rough line, as this slows the AI more down as the human. Plus you slow his growth as well.

There isn't so much space left anyway. We might have flex our muscles a bit, that we get some more elbow-room.

Another thing: No one can live in peace, if the evil neighbour doesn't agree.

I am not 'willing' to bribe our neighbours with 'my' gold, just to see them backstabing us a few turns later.

So if IW (/APP) can not come up with something convincing me, Turambar will get my vote.

Exactly my thoughts on our current situation
Which was why i ended up voteing for Turambar.

[Turambar]

I am pretty sure Sun Tzu would have advised you not to engage in a war you are sure to lose.

We are not engaged in a war or will we be for a while yet. I've no plans to plunge us into a war we will lose. Nor would the people of Lemuria let me do so.

We should obviously only enter a war when we are ready to do so. But we should look to be ready as soon as possible or war will be thrust upon us by other civs and barbs whilst we are unprepared.

[Turambar]

I'd also like to hear some more from IW on the subject. Seems his APP friends are doing all the campaigning for him .

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by Turambar
I've never said we should attack NOW at any point. Please find a quote before saying stuff like that. If my plan was to attack NOW then there would already of been an official poll about it.

Sorry Turambar but I sincerely thought you wanted to declare war now as you have already expressed your opinion in favor of war in an earlier poll (tell me if I am wrong) and through various DG threads. My words are not meant to distort the truth.

When do you think our glorious nation should declare war?

Who should be our opponent?

How do you plan to prepare our nation for war?

[Turambar]

When do you think our glorious nation should declare war?

Once we have enough units to begin successfully taking enemy cities whilst also being able to defend ourselves. This of course will be decided by the people.

Who should be our opponent?

Austria looks like the best target to me as they are the weakest of the two and have some nice looking city sites. Also the rivers into their territory / cities would speed up troop movement / reinforcements etc.

But again the people should decide who gets attacked.

How do you plan to prepare our nation for war?

After this election I will come up with a plan for building up for and conducting war to present to the people. It can then be either accepted, changed or thrown out etc.