Exchange Map Proposal Rejected!!!

[Immortal Wombat]

IW's an idiot. Yes, but that was only our first proposal, to gauge the scope of their opinion. We can offer gold and stuff when we have it. They won't take a threat seriously at all, since they are far more powerful than we are.

If the president agrees, then give some gold, I don't care.

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
IW's an idiot.

Sorry 'bout that, I was a little cranky this morning

I had seen your orders yesterday and disagreed with your recommendation not to give gold but was too tired to write a resolution to force you to chance your recommendation - I figured I'd do that today. Then I woke up this morning and saw Pedrunn had already played

So I suppose I should be calling Pedrunn an idiot instead

[Pedrunn]

Originally posted by Locutus
So I suppose I should be calling Pedrunn an idiot instead

And who's not?!? I know you are...

I did not liked the idea of giving them money at all. So i am agree with IW. Wasting our resources like that with someone that clearly dont like us. Remember we are neighbours and CTP2 makes neghbours hate each other. Maybe we could be friends of the next civ. This one is stupid to contunue.
So i believe we should threaten them to go to war. If they dont accept so we go to war. I dont like that people.

[Devil of Truth]

Originally posted by Pedrunn
Although i believe we should threaten them to go to war. If they dont accept so we go to war. I dont like that people.

Idiot!

Nah, I’m just kidding; but aren’t Brazilians supposed to be a peaceful people?

Can we afford to go to war with the Austrians this early? MoD?

[Ãskallin]

Kill'em and we don't will have to worry about the
DREPA! DREPA!

[child of Thor]

Yeah i've decided giving gold is maybe not a good idea, so i agree with Iskallin. Rush out another warrior, leave our city undefended and take all we have to find that nearest city and take it.
Also i think we should really reconsider our production/science output etc - we obviously need max production at the momment, probably at the expense of everything else untill we have subjued the austrians(so ignore my post in the other thread).

[H Tower]

we aren't doing much science right now. as it is ballistics will take another 90 turns IIRC

[child of Thor]

So basically we are just very weak compared to the austrians. Can't we crank the production up a bit by over feeding our people to keep them happy? I'm feeling worried about our survival.

[Locutus]

We have nothing to fear as long as we don't foolhardly try to take on the Austrians before we're ready, or even have a clue of how strong exactly they are...

Taking on a civ with ~6 cities with only 2 or 3 Warriors is suicide. We should first get their map, then decide if and when to attack. In the meantime we should give them the illusion that we like them. It's not like we need the gold for anything else at this stage...

[H Tower]

as much as i desire to warmonger, its suicide until we grow.

[HuangShang]

how will it be possible to play diplomacy w/ the austrians?

i think we should keep the warrior where he is, fortify the warrior in the city, and have 3 warriors before the settler

[Pedrunn]

Actually i have finish a turn. So we do have 2 warriors. but i am not saying to attack now but when we have 4 warriors. We keep one in our city and attack with the others. The we distribute the alive warriors with the 2 cities and produces more units with the two cities to the next attack.

If the city is low defended we will reach our second city in the same time we would have built an settler and still keeping some alive warriors.

So the attack will probably be in ~10-15 turns from now. But we need to assume a military personality, building warriors and sucking all we need from the Austrians like using threatenning and killing their settlers (or follow them to kill th city later).

[H Tower]

so no settlers then?

[Pedrunn]

Thats my question will we assume a military attitute which means no settler and build warriors to war. Or a peaceful atitude which means build a settler and be nice to the Austrians.

IW, should run another attitude poll now that we sent the Austrians the proposals

[H Tower]

IW told me he will only have limited access to the internet until the 26th and probablly won't be able to start the poll until then