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  • Locutus
    started a topic Temporary File Database

    Temporary File Database

    Since it's not possible to add files to the existing regular File Database and a new one is not yet ready for use (shouldn't be too long anymore though), I created a temporary database. You can find it at http://apolyton.net/~ctp2files/.

    If you have any files for the database (whether it is a 10k large mod that renames Spearman to Hoplite or a supermod like Cradle with all the graphics and videos and everything included), email me with the file itself or a link where I can download it (esp. for big files this latter technique might be wise). Alternatively you can post the necessary info in this thread. I know about a lot of stuff out there but I still want everyone to explicitly email me/post here: I don't want to have to hunt the whole Internet for files, I need your permission anyway, I'm certain to forget a mod or two if I am to contact you guys and noone knows better what mods you've made than you. So even if your mod happens to be the most important one in CtP2's history and it goes without saying that it should be in the database, email me/post here anyway. Same rules apply as mentioned on the database page, with some minor changes, I'll repost them here:

    The info I need is:
    - If it's a CtP1 or CtP2 file (or both)
    - Title of mod
    - Synopsis
    - Contact name/handle (whichever you prefer)
    - Contact email (if different from the one you're sending from)
    - Category (see here for list)
    - Version (if applicable)
    - The file(s) for the database itself or a link to it/them
    - Description (longer than synopsis, see existing database entries for examples)
    - A forum thread URL where people can give feedback/report problems/etc (if applicable)

    Note: don't use the form in the link I provided, it won't work. Email/PM/ICQ me or post in this thread instead.

    Important notes
    This database is open for everybody, that means that all files mailed to the database manager will be included regardless of their author, quality or content. However, the following rules apply:
    * Files will not be included if the DB manager has the impression that the sender of the files is not the author and tries to get files listed under his name without the expressed approval of the author.
    * The DB team will not do any playtesting of submitted files. If you need playtesters go to the CTP2 forums.
    * Only finished files will be processed. If you consider your scenario a beta version which will be updated soon, please wait until playtesting is finished. You can send updated versions of existing files, but a certain period of time should have passed between updates. Note: the meaning of 'beta' over time has come to mean something slightly different from the industry standard; this rule basically means: don't send updates every other day (and make sure the files are not too buggy). Whether you call your file a beta or a low-quality release version is a matter of semantics.
    * The DB team will not search any webpages for updates of existing files. Please re-submit the file if you have an update. Note: this rule is slightly different from the one mentioned in the database section.
    * Submitted files will usually be processed and entered in the DB within 4 weeks. Please do not send e-mails asking when your file will show up. We will not answer such mails. Note: since the database is currently not fully operational, there's no telling how long it takes before your file is actually added to the database. However, I'll write some HTML pages or a forum thread from which the files can be accessed until then. At this point I can't give any guarantees in regard to time but I'll confirm your email if I receive it, if you've received confirmation you can be sure your file will be placed on the Apolyton server and (eventually) in the database.
    * If your zip file is larger than 1 MB, please put the sound files into a separate zip file (aka secondary file). Note: scratch this rule. There are some mods out there that are 10-20 MB large so this won't help much. Try to put everything in files of at most 4-5MB large, or use some other sensible way to split things up (if you haven't done so already). I think Markos and I will need to discuss what to do with those really big mods when the new database is fully operational again. We'll first need to have an inventory of what is out there anyway, even I don't know exactly how large most mods are (I have cable so I never pay attention to it).

    Attention Third-Party file senders: Please include with your submission and in your attached documentation the name and e-mail address of the author of the CTP2 file, so we can contact them to ensure that no future complications arise about the posting of the file(s). Thank you for you understanding in this matter.

    Files Types:
    * Maps=A map or set of maps, in Pack, Binary or Text form
    * Maps/Binary=Map file or set of map files as saved from the "save map" feature of the editor
    * Maps/Text=Map file in text format that can be imported in the game
    * Maps/Packs=A map or set of maps, with just starting locations, no cities, no modified game files, put together as a pack
    * Scenarios=Map with starting locations, specific cities, civs, etc, with or without modified game files
    * Mods= Set of modified game files, put together as a pack. may include maps
    * Modification= Files for modmakers or anyone wanting to modify CTP2. Units, graphics, utilities
    * Official= Files by Activision.
    * Miscellaneous= Various files that do not belong anywhere else
    Last edited by Locutus; May 13, 2002, 06:12.

  • Locutus
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    Martin and all,
    We're still working on the old files, there are a LOT of bugs with them (for one thing, Dave is the author of about 50% of all files in the CtP2 dir ). The same was the case with the Civ2 conversion but we could fix those in private as the dir was invisible - this is not possible with CtP2 as it's already public so please bear with us, and stay away from the old files for a couple of days!

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  • Martin Gühmann
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    Finally the old database is now in the 'Poly Dir, but you should check all the authors most of them aren't converted correctly. I hope you can fix this Wouter. Otherwise I know now why we gottn't a new patch from Activision, the dir gives us the information that hexagonian created the patch. So I should ask Dave for the source code of the ctp2.exe as he made the patch.

    -Martin

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  • Locutus
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    Uhm, what page? What links?

    You mean http://apolyton.net/~ctp2files? That's not hard to remember, is it? If it is, just use http://apolyton.net/dir and click on 'Call to Power 2'.
    Various categories are simply subdirs of the aforementioned addres, so Scenarios are at http://apolyton.net/~ctp2files/scenarios, Mods at http://apolyton.net/~ctp2files/mods, Graphics Modifications at http://apolyton.net/~ctp2files/modification/graphics, etc... (Just the names of the categories as they are used in the Directory and old file databases)

    Edit: you could add them to the 'notepad' feature in the control panel if you want but in that case there's no real point in using them: you might as well use the actual Directory addresses straight away in that case. The whole point is that it saves you time searching for the right link...

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  • Pedrunn
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    Wait! how do i get to the page with easy apolyton hotlinks without having to memorizing the adress.

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  • Locutus
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    Note to all: the temp database been deleted, if you hadn't switched to the directory yet, you'll have to now. However, I am keeping the folder structure intact for easier linking: you're automatically forwared. So if you want to send someone to the CtP2 section of the Directory, you can use "http://apolyton.net/dir/index.php?&cat=9&t=sub_pages" but you can also use "http://apolyton.net/~ctp2files" if you prefer. To link to the scenarios category, use either "http://apolyton.net/dir/index.php?t=sub_pages&cat=32" or "http://apolyton.net/~ctp2files/scenarios/". To link to specific files, you can only use the Directory link: "http://apolyton.net/dir/index.php?id=486&t=reviews&cat=32" (and not "http://apolyton.net/~ctp2files/scenarios/WordMap/" or whatever, that won't work).

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  • Locutus
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    I have access to the news, yes, but not to the links at the top of the page and stuff. I already asked Markos if he could look into adding more links to the directory from various parts of the site (and back).

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  • Martin Gühmann
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    I think I will leave it to the post I made in the thread about it. But another question do you have access on the links on the CTP2 news page so that you can modify it so that the Apolyton directory is linked from that page.

    -Martin

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  • Locutus
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    Well, don't him I give you that idea

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  • Martin Gühmann
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    Originally posted by Locutus
    Yeap, now you can start bugging Markos
    That's an interesting idea, and now I wonder what I could do now as I finished the tourny game.

    -Martin

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  • Locutus
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    D'oh!

    Yeap, now you can start bugging Markos

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  • Martin Gühmann
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    Originally posted by Locutus
    'pld'? The old database you mean? I'm afraid I have no control over that, that's up to Markos. All existing databases have a similar structure, Markos is writing some script to do the importing automatically. All I can do is move the temp database there (which I already did months ago) and keep adding new files.
    These stupid typos, the 'o' key is beside the 'p' key.

    But anyway thanks to let us know you aren't responsible for that part.

    -Martin

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  • Locutus
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    'pld'? The old database you mean? I'm afraid I have no control over that, that's up to Markos. All existing databases have a similar structure, Markos is writing some script to do the importing automatically. All I can do is move the temp database there (which I already did months ago) and keep adding new files.

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  • Martin Gühmann
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    So when you will move all the files from the pld database to the new one Locutus?

    -Martin

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  • Locutus
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    Now the new directory is *finally* online (we were working on this for a long, long time - that explains why I was so lazy in updating this database: for months we thought we could be ready for the official opening within days), this thread will soon be uptopped and possibly closed. Since I know CtP2ers don't like to venture outside their own forums,

    I'll leave this place here for a few more days to serve as an announcement and (if people need it) a place for discussion about the new file database:
    The Apolyton Directory - http://apolyton.net/dir
    See the Community Forum for details.

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